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Re: Why get rid of the IFS?
« Reply #60 on: July 02, 2005, 05:24:17 PM »
Devulge secrets  ::) Its no secret. If you want a higher spring rate you can cut a little off a coil to up the rate.  Yes this will make it sit lower but you can up the height with a spacer. Ome also makes different rates of coils and dont forget the GV and Xl7 coils.  Weight distribution also is a big factor.  Ive always had issues with getting higher spring rate since my rig weighs in at a heafty 3500 lbs with all my gear and me in it.

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Re: Why get rid of the IFS?
« Reply #61 on: July 02, 2005, 08:09:55 PM »
 Just my opinionated opinion, if you want ground clearance, strengh and flex buy PORTAL AXLES the best of everything and the extra weight gives you a lower center of gravity.( oh ya and crazy gear reduction like your # plus 200:1 at the wheel)

If your gonna cry about the ride quality it's called 4x4 (offroad) for a reason not air bagged slush mobile on pavement (GRANDPA'S COUPE DEVILLE)

again, just my .02
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Re: Why get rid of the IFS?
« Reply #62 on: July 03, 2005, 07:05:36 AM »
Couple probs with mogs: they're expensive, and they aren't too durable on the road, due to having the small oil capacity at the portals and the gear lube getting hot (from what I've read).
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Re: Why get rid of the IFS?
« Reply #63 on: July 03, 2005, 07:23:16 AM »
you know everybody is missing something !!!!!

rock crawling is specialized and ther fore need a special rig but trail rigs are not really specializid they are jsut an upgrade of the original. ask yourself this what are you gonna do with your rig?   if you are a crawler than go the extra mile and do it right ..SAS and coils not leaves....yes it is less expensive but for this argument do it right...long arm SAS coil locked on both ends and gear the shit out of it!!! now for the rest of us who are in the normal world of going down a trail maybe see a rock or two and drive 95% on the road IFS and clean mods maybe locked on the rear is way more than good enough......besides look a Hummer no articulation but goes almost anywhere cuz it is locked and strong (and 120,00 dollars) I am not into rocks and maybe that means I am biased but so be it .   I like my ifs it goes where I want and it will go even more places soon.

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Re: Why get rid of the IFS?
« Reply #64 on: July 03, 2005, 11:35:36 AM »
I don't know how everyone else's IFS rigs drive, but my 33's really took away from the overall streetability of the vehicle... I don't understand the argument that IFS is better on the road when you're already making it more unsafe to drive on the road. Sure, an SAS might detract from streetability even more than lifted IFS, but neither are anywhere near as roadworthy as the original configuration.

That's why I like the idea of dedicated vehicles: Trail rig and tow rig (DD) ;D
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Re: Why get rid of the IFS?
« Reply #65 on: July 03, 2005, 02:42:12 PM »
my kick handles fine at 70-75 on the interstate. It's not stock bit it's perty close 8)

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Re: Why get rid of the IFS?
« Reply #66 on: July 03, 2005, 02:56:12 PM »
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my kick handles fine at 70-75 on the interstate. It's not stock bit it's perty close 8)

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Fine and good are quite different. ;D
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Re: Why get rid of the IFS?
« Reply #67 on: July 03, 2005, 04:54:42 PM »
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Fuck flex, I'm after strength.

Then again, I don't play in the rocks ;)


not trying to talk you out of doing an sas, but if strength is what your looking for a solid front axle swap won't be the fix, because they snap too. I've got pics of sidekicks that snap d44's with 33's. if mike can do it then so can anyone else, he's provided the info.

when i first found sites on the web with pics of modded sidekicks, i had big plans to run 33's or bigger. after doing lots of reading i realized that i would never need a rig so done out. i then came up with a build plan for me, i wanted to make mine as reliable as a stock one, and as maintenance free too. i'm not going to do any rock crawling either so the big mods wouldn't work for me. so far i've managed to get closer to my goal, i just need to get a anvil, with arb lockers in the rear for sure, and maybe one up front, and some rocker gaurds. this should give me a bullet proof trail rig for hunting, fishing, and some weekend wheeling.

but i do love sas'd zuks too, it all depends on what you want from it.

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Re: Why get rid of the IFS?
« Reply #68 on: July 03, 2005, 04:59:17 PM »
Stock SideKicks only handled fine,
I had an Audi 4000S at the same
time when I bought the Kick, hit a
corner at the "normal" speed and
about lost it when the body started
to roll and get loose in the ass end.

It's fair to say the modified kick is as
good as stock was, it's wider (wheels)
and has more height, but it also doesn't
have a front sway bar, but you learn to
adapt to the new driving style.


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Re: Why get rid of the IFS?
« Reply #69 on: July 03, 2005, 06:10:55 PM »
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I don't know how everyone else's IFS rigs drive, but my 33's really took away from the overall streetability of the vehicle... I don't understand the argument that IFS is better on the road when you're already making it more unsafe to drive on the road. Sure, an SAS might detract from streetability even more than lifted IFS, but neither are anywhere near as roadworthy as the original configuration.

That's why I like the idea of dedicated vehicles: Trail rig and tow rig (DD) ;D

 This depends on how its done. The rockstar has 35s on it and drives exactly like a stocker down the road. Its a shame its so illegal ! ;D

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Re: Why get rid of the IFS?
« Reply #70 on: July 03, 2005, 07:22:41 PM »
Mike, you got to bring RockStar to Moab
next year, I would love to see how she
does on the trails and rocks
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Re: Why get rid of the IFS?
« Reply #71 on: July 04, 2005, 12:34:40 AM »
Rockstar doesn't count, since it only weighs like 500lbs ;)

Actually, I'd love a trail rig like that... that thing is so damn badass! I love lightweight stuff. ;D
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Re: Why get rid of the IFS?
« Reply #72 on: July 04, 2005, 05:17:00 AM »
Are we gonna see anymore pics of Rockstar?
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Re: Why get rid of the IFS?
« Reply #73 on: July 04, 2005, 06:55:13 AM »
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Are we gonna see anymore pics of Rockstar?

This waiting a month between installments is killing me >:(
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