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Offline hwally

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converting a 92 sidekick to non computer.
« on: April 03, 2012, 08:51:57 PM »
I'd like to convert my 92 side kick with fuel injection and a 1.6 to a carb and non computerized distributor.  I live in a humid jungle environment and am off road all of the time.   I'm a retired mechanic and would do the conversion myself.  I'm not interested in racing or high performance.  I just want dependable.  I also have to be able to work on it out in the middle of nowhere.  Electronics just don't last long out here.  I've read all of the arguments against this and still want to do the conversion.  I'd like some recommendations for parts and maybe a link to places that would carry a conversion kit if there is one.  Thanks for the help.

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Offline talonxracer

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Re: converting a 92 sidekick to non computer.
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2012, 05:34:53 AM »
There is no conversion kit made to degrade the engine and electronics as you desire. Expect approx a 8-18% drop in fuel mileage.

92'kick , so being a 8v there is only one choice, a ZOR My-Side2 with harley 44mm carb for induction. Anything else is a serious downgrade, at least the Myside should/will retain most of the drivability and mileage. 

For spark you will need electronics of some sort, MSD and several other companies make some waterproof units. Unless their is a old school points and condensor vacuum advance distributor out there, but I have no clue on this front   

 
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Re: converting a 92 sidekick to non computer.
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2012, 09:03:16 AM »
I call BS: What you are contemplating is a good idea for your environment.
 Run a 1300 head distributor and intake with an early to mid 70s Toyota Corolla carb (1200cc - 1600cc) $95 new). Run the stock Samurai air box.
It will run very well at all angles. will maintain 28 - 30 mpg. Will fire up effortlessly and will save you many headaches in the future. You will lose some top end performance, But there aren't many freeways in the jungle.......
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Re: converting a 92 sidekick to non computer.
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2012, 09:41:32 AM »
X2 on Boxcar's post.. I would have suggested the same thing on head and disty from a 1.3, then you have the manual fuel pump

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Offline hwally

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Re: converting a 92 sidekick to non computer.
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2012, 09:56:00 AM »
My Goodness, precise and to the point.  I like that.  I converted a Land Rover fi to carb and have a left over fuel pressure regulator so now I just have to start collecting parts.  I'll keep you up on my progress.  Bye the way.  This sidekick has a 78 Porsche body.  Not so tippy and a big boost in power and mileage.  Lost a lot of weight with the body swap.

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Re: converting a 92 sidekick to non computer.
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2012, 03:03:44 PM »
Pics!

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Re: converting a 92 sidekick to non computer.
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2012, 09:35:57 AM »
Pics!

X2!  I have seen Bug's on Sammy's but not Porsche on Sidekick.  :D
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Offline hwally

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Re: converting a 92 sidekick to non computer.
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2012, 02:45:32 PM »
I'll have to get my wife to help me with the pics. 

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Offline hwally

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Re: converting a 92 sidekick to non computer.
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2012, 07:03:54 PM »
Well, I guess I'm going to have to throw a monkey wrench into the mix.  I've got the 16 valve 1.6.  I've read that that makes it more difficult but is it impossible?  I'm grateful for the help.  Got to figure this out.

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Re: converting a 92 sidekick to non computer.
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2012, 04:57:33 AM »
Not sure if there's a bolt up solution, but you could always fab up an intake manifold and adapt a set of 4 motorcycle carbs of a larger ( 1300cc or better ) motorbike, or make the intake to mount 1 Large CV ( constant velocity ) carb off a Harley. Ignition timing may be an issue though.
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Re: converting a 92 sidekick to non computer.
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2012, 03:15:08 PM »

92'kick , so being a 8v there is only one choice, a ZOR My-Side2 with harley 44mm carb for induction. Anything else is a serious downgrade, at least the Myside should/will retain most of the drivability and mileage. 

If he has a 4 door, it will have a 16V.
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Re: converting a 92 sidekick to non computer.
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2012, 04:41:54 AM »
Well, I guess I'm going to have to throw a monkey wrench into the mix.  I've got the 16 valve 1.6.  I've read that that makes it more difficult but is it impossible?  I'm grateful for the help.  Got to figure this out.

Unless you can obtain a carb set up from a 1.6 Swift then it is more difficult but not impossible. The biggest issue is that the distributor runs the opposite way to the 8V so you need to do some fabbing to get that to work, Tim Pink on Difflock.com did all this and has since sold that motor to another Difflocker, a post there should ellicit some information. A carb manifold will bolt up to the 16V head but you need to fab up a plate to fit between the manifold and the head to block off the injector cutouts.
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Re: converting a 92 sidekick to non computer.
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2012, 06:35:08 PM »
Can you weld? If you have enough skill to run a MiG, ( or have a good buddy who does)  you can probably make a simple and effective log style manifold to mount any number of carbs. If you can do that you can certainly make a block off plate.
Personally, I believe the decidedly more simple motorcycle carb conversion, especially using the larger CV carb off an older Harley would be the easiest to fab and maintain. 1 carb to tune, simple manual cable actuated choke, CV operation for somewhat self adjusting fuel mixture once you get a good baseline setup, and can support up to 100hp, probably more. Tuning parts are readily available through the Harley aftermarket so any jet size or mounting adapter you needed is just a click away, or an HD dealer if you don't mind being raped in the wallet.

If you live somewhere HD parts aren't available, maybe another large CV off something else? You'll still have the ignition to deal with but it should be much easier, imo.
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