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Offline chancepeeler

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stock 87 sammy need major help
« on: June 02, 2010, 10:54:52 AM »


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I have a 87 samurai that has the stock 1.3 and i want to put a bigger motor and a lift on it. I love my sammy and want to fix it up on a budget while making sure it is in good running shape. I live in texas and cant find a single person to work on my samurai. I want a bigger motor but i am very mechanically slow and dont know how to work on them. Any Ideas??
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Re: stock 87 sammy need major help
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2010, 12:20:39 PM »
The standard swap is a 1.6L, fairly easy to do and gives you some extra power.

Another option is to go with a well built 1.3L.  Sammy Pro is a great place to look at replacement engines.

http://www.sammypro.com/

What area do you live in?  Someone in the area might be able to help.  Can you do your own engine swaps where you have the vehicle stored?
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Offline chancepeeler

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Re: stock 87 sammy need major help
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2010, 01:50:29 PM »
no i have no shop or anything i am mechanically challanged and cant do anything with motors. i live north texas around dallas.
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Re: stock 87 sammy need major help
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2010, 08:22:42 PM »
If you are "severly challenged" you need to stick with what you got.Because if somone else puts in the "bigger" motor you wont know a thing about it,for repair or whatever.
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Re: stock 87 sammy need major help
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2010, 10:12:53 AM »
You might be better off with lower gears to help turn the larger tires.  That way you can just pick up a built transfer case.
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Re: stock 87 sammy need major help
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2010, 07:59:14 AM »
I found a man in dallas who said that i need to locate axles from a 79-85 toyota then locate a 4.7:1 transfer case. Then i could haul a lift and big tires while sticking to the original motor that is in the sammy. Those out their who have done this, is this a good deal, will it still haul those bigger tires and keep the power ill need to trail ride and highway ride?
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Re: stock 87 sammy need major help
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2010, 10:23:01 AM »
What size tires are you looking to run?
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Re: stock 87 sammy need major help
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2010, 01:21:20 PM »
the man i spoke with said that a 4.7:1 transfer case would allow me to run all the way up to a 36 in tire.
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Re: stock 87 sammy need major help
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2010, 06:04:24 PM »
That might be pushing it.  My cousin runs a 8:1 t-case with stock gears and 33" Swamper TSL.  He found it a bit underpowered on the highway until he put 5.12 gears in.  Now he has power, but not enough RPM's to go very fast.

The general thought is 6.5:1 gives you 33-35" tires.  The Toyota axles have 4.11 in them normally instead of the 3.89 and might give you an extra inch or so.

I would take a look at a Transmission Calculator and play around with it.  The one at a friends web site has most of the aftermarket t-case setups available.  A Samurai is listed as the SJ-413.

http://www.solemnwarning.net/transmission/
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Re: stock 87 sammy need major help
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2010, 07:15:57 AM »
appreciate that it helped.. I contacted a few places on the web about what gears i need but im still not sure exactly what all i need. This makes a lot of since for a person to want to do all of this and know very litle about anything. I want the bigger and badder that i can go so help is always needed. What lifts do they use on samurais most comonly and how big will they go safely?
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Re: stock 87 sammy need major help
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2010, 07:18:28 AM »
spring over axle is a common lift, and can net something like 4-5" of lift, depending on how you go.    I think 6" is the limit though on account of driveline angles becoming issues if I understand what I've been reading correctly.
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Re: stock 87 sammy need major help
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2010, 08:25:07 AM »
I have a guy who is going to do it for me and he says he has done a lot of them in the past and ive seen pictures of his lifts and it doesnt appear to be a spring over so well see. I wanna run a big tire so i need a big lift and a new transfer case.
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Re: stock 87 sammy need major help
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2010, 09:38:34 AM »
I would use the 6.5 to 1 t-case gears with the stock motor spring over and 32's  toy axles maybe over kill for most samurai's
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Re: stock 87 sammy need major help
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2010, 01:12:26 PM »
As u know the stock motor doesnt pack a huge punch, after the tires lift and transfer case will it have some get up and go to handle the trails and highway?
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