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Re: winch bumper
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2015, 11:02:32 PM »
I think that light bar might be blocking some of the airflow needed for cooling.  (Just a thought.)  Get another one and notch them into the face of the bumper.  I don't know if you have room behind the bumper to keep them straight and still behind the face.
Anyway they sure spoil you, once you have used them, your normal lights almost don't seem to work.
93 Tracker,XL7 springs & 1" raised spring pads in front with YJ springs in back, home built bumpers rear & front (w/winch), 2" x 4" rock tubes,  ARB front & rear, converted Sami rear to IFS, 33x12.5x15  aluminum rims, roll cage, 2.7L w/5 speed auto.

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Re: winch bumper
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2015, 07:38:44 PM »
ya was thinking that ...but it only extends 3"on either side of the winch controller box, if it blocks to much air flow I will just have to go to an electric fan. The big light bar is only a 12" bar and others are 4". All I know is that they work and im asleep by the time its dark out ( yaya I have that strange disease) its called A>G>E. I will get to see the true effect from them soon enough 
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V6 swap auto  ,2 dr ,2" BL,2" jeffs kit 512 gears warn hubs and 30/9.5/15 BFG AT

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Re: winch bumper
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2015, 07:45:17 PM »
another picture of the lights
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V6 swap auto  ,2 dr ,2" BL,2" jeffs kit 512 gears warn hubs and 30/9.5/15 BFG AT

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Re: winch bumper
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2015, 06:53:23 AM »
I didn't notice that the light bar was hiding the winch relay box,  I run electric fans because of space limitations, but for air flow it is hard to beat motor driven fans if they are working correctly. 
If you go to electric, buy one with the highest air flow you can fit.  It only runs when you need it, and too much air flow only means it will shut off more often.  Too little means overheating more often, and these motors do not like running really hot.
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Re: winch bumper
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2015, 04:30:14 PM »
that's good to know... im looking at putting 4dr GV front springs in the front with my spacers to compensate for the weight of winch and bumper, capt said that he put them in with the spacers and gained 2" in height and my tracker definitely leans forward some and im hoping that this will get me back to sitting level
new rig aka "the mule" 2002 tracker
V6 swap auto  ,2 dr ,2" BL,2" jeffs kit 512 gears warn hubs and 30/9.5/15 BFG AT

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Re: winch bumper
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2015, 08:31:39 PM »
well walked around the auto wreckers and found a 2002 GV with a V6 ....too bad it was auto but it still had the front coils still in so grabbed them today 15 bucks for both front coils so will be trying them out soon to see how much lift they give me with the spacers. one thing for sure they are definitely taller by far, I will measure them and see what the difference is 
new rig aka "the mule" 2002 tracker
V6 swap auto  ,2 dr ,2" BL,2" jeffs kit 512 gears warn hubs and 30/9.5/15 BFG AT

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Re: winch bumper
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2015, 07:02:22 PM »
well just looking at the coils and counted the rings and the GV have 2 more coils than mine, now wondering if I should keep the spacers in or remove them ???
new rig aka "the mule" 2002 tracker
V6 swap auto  ,2 dr ,2" BL,2" jeffs kit 512 gears warn hubs and 30/9.5/15 BFG AT

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Re: winch bumper
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2015, 11:32:28 AM »
The number of coils in a spring is not really indicative of the "strength" of the spring - there are several other factors that also play a part, diameter of the wire used, diameter of the former the coil is wound on and pitch of the windings also play a part.

A quick & dirty way to look at it is to compare the difference in weight of the two vehicles - the V6 model weighs roughly 175lbs more than a 4 cylinder and the bulk of that difference is in the engine & transmission so largely concentrated towards the front.

Before going with OME I considered using the V6 springs to compensate for a winch bumper that has yet to be built & fitted - if & when that time comes, I'll just upgrade the OMEs.

I'd leave the spacers in, my train of thought being that the spacers were sized for a vehicle without the additional front end weight, and the springs are going to be used for that.

Before you fit the V6 springs, put them side by side with the originals, I'm betting they are no taller (no significant difference in free length)
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Re: winch bumper
« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2015, 04:36:21 PM »
ya I will definitely compare them side by side b4 I install the GV springs they probably wont go in till later in the fall going to see how bad it bottoms out
new rig aka "the mule" 2002 tracker
V6 swap auto  ,2 dr ,2" BL,2" jeffs kit 512 gears warn hubs and 30/9.5/15 BFG AT

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Re: winch bumper
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2015, 08:06:26 AM »
When I up graded my springs with OME, the XL7 front springs were taller than GV, but lighter weight per inch.  So if your GV springs seem to harsh, you might try XL7's.  I am running the OME 955 (lifted XL7) with a modified spring seat to keep the springs from bowing outward and compressing the brake calipers when stuffing tires on turns.
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Re: winch bumper
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2015, 09:22:43 PM »
well springs were 5/8" taller and coil size were the same so when I put them in I gained that in lift in front  so now I sit pretty level..... within 1/2" and looks better to me and im happy with it
new rig aka "the mule" 2002 tracker
V6 swap auto  ,2 dr ,2" BL,2" jeffs kit 512 gears warn hubs and 30/9.5/15 BFG AT

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Re: winch bumper
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2015, 07:20:10 PM »
Is there any appreciable difference/improvement in the ride with the new springs in now?  Handling... bumps, turning?
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Re: winch bumper
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2015, 11:04:06 AM »
handling the same, takes bumps better and no difference in turning and it sits higher in the front
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V6 swap auto  ,2 dr ,2" BL,2" jeffs kit 512 gears warn hubs and 30/9.5/15 BFG AT

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Re: winch bumper
« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2015, 03:21:21 PM »
worked out like that for me to, plus seemed to do better going up 10-16" rock faces .have not done any bigger than that yet
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Re: winch bumper
« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2015, 08:07:16 PM »
with the clearance of the bumper I think that 20" straight on I could do, any more and I think the bumper would hit 
new rig aka "the mule" 2002 tracker
V6 swap auto  ,2 dr ,2" BL,2" jeffs kit 512 gears warn hubs and 30/9.5/15 BFG AT