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Re: Anyone on Old man EMU kit?
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2010, 06:21:59 PM »
skip the expensive shocks, i run 80's model tbirds out back, trust me on this, i've tried crown vics, mustangs, cavaliers and now these, longer beefier and mount perfectly to your truck.

And now these - which are "these" - do you have any experience with the Old Man Emu shocks?
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Re: Anyone on Old man EMU kit?
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2010, 07:20:55 PM »
I've got an update on the OME stuff and my lift.  Here's my experience thus far on my '01 2-door.

Lift: 2" Coil Spacers from Jeff.  Please correct me if I'm wrong Jeff, but I remembered you saying that the front spacers provide just over 2" of lift to level the car.  I actually wanted just under 2" for what I was trying to accomplish so I did some math and took off 3/16" from the front spacers.  The height turned out perfect.

Rear OME N32 (2-door specific) Shocks from Low Range Off Road:  They have about 1.5" more down travel than the stock shocks.  The diameter of the body of the shock is significantly larger than the stock shocks so this caused an interference with the lower shock mounts. Due to tolerances, I had to trim 1/8" off the passenger side shock mount and 1/4" off the driver side to keep the shock body from hitting the mount during the suspension travel.  I wasn't happy about doing this but I was committed by the point I realized what was happening.  They come with new bushings, hardware, and a metal "dust cover" for the piston.  Once on the car, they ride nice.

Front OME Struts from Low Range Off Road: They have almost 2" more down travel than the stock struts which translates to about 3" at the wheel - I was impressed with how much better this looked.  They do NOT compensate with respect to your camber though for a 2" lift.  In order to align it you will need camber bolts or need to elongate the strut holes.  The struts do not come with new rubber bushings for the top so you will need to re-use your old ones or you can order new ones from rockauto or something.  They do come with a new nylock nut for the top though.  The struts do not come with a "dust cover" for the piston.  I took the plastic covers off my factory struts and swapped them on.  Like the rears, the front struts also ride nice.

I can't compare my set up above to others but it was more work than I expected to get everything tweaked just right.  I initially installed the front sway bar, but it didn't line up well with the new angle of the lower control arms with the lift.  It would have eaten sway bar end links fast.  I drove about 100 miles with it on and now have it off.  There is a difference with it off, but it is barely noticeable with the new struts.  I'm keeping it off for now.

Vendor experience were great.  Jeff took my order and got me parts fast. Same for Low Range Off Road.  The shocks/struts/lift were just a part of what I was doing on the car so I also ordered stuff from Trail Tough (shift on the fly removal stuff), Rocky Road (greasable u-joints), Rock Auto (tons of misc), and gmpartsonline.net (whatever I couldn't get from rock auto) with good success.

Nice write up. My Calmini front struts appear to be showing signs of wear as I am starting to get slight front end wheel hop every time I hit a sharp bump in the road. I had them one for around 1 year 4 months now. If they continue to get worse, I order up a set of OEMs from Low Range Offroad.

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Re: Anyone on Old man EMU kit?
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2010, 02:23:44 PM »
no, the shafts are not exposed so the daystar bumpstops would not work.
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Re: Anyone on Old man EMU kit?
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2010, 02:28:35 PM »
no, the shafts are not exposed so the daystar bumpstops would not work.

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Monroe 32316 shocks w/2" extenders
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Re: Anyone on Old man EMU kit?
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2010, 12:09:38 PM »
Also, I don't suppose you have any photos of the trimming work to clear the shocks?

I'm replacing a leaky wheel cylinder now so it was a good time to get a picture of the shock mount trimming I had to do.  I put a bunch of arrows along the area I trimmed a little.  It contacted the mount at the end of the downward travel only so that is why it doesn't look too close right now in the picture.  I trimmed it with a dremmel because it is a tight spot but it is so little material that needed to be removed that you could just grind it too and put a quick spray of paint over the area.

Almost forgot - You can see where the shock is kind of close to the brake line in the picture too.  I bent the lines in slightly closer to the axle housing so they wouldn't rub.  Takes two seconds with a rubber mallet and isn't a big deal.  Once again, the shock is closest to contacting at full droop so check your truck before driving away.
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Re: Anyone on Old man EMU kit?
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2010, 06:25:37 PM »
So Frank, are the OME front struts worth the $300?  I can parts store the rear shocks but the front struts...the tires are sitting like this \  / from the lift and I'm not terribly impressed with the performance of the Monroes or whatever are on it now.  Hard to swallow the $300 for the OME struts though.  I'd hope they'll perform like Bilstein 5100's and last forever for that kinda cheese.

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Re: Anyone on Old man EMU kit?
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2010, 05:32:35 AM »
So Frank, are the OME front struts worth the $300?  I can parts store the rear shocks but the front struts...the tires are sitting like this \  / from the lift and I'm not terribly impressed with the performance of the Monroes or whatever are on it now.  Hard to swallow the $300 for the OME struts though.  I'd hope they'll perform like Bilstein 5100's and last forever for that kinda cheese.

The biggest benefit I see from the OME struts is the increase in wheel travel.  I have close to 3" of extra droop at the wheel which maxes out the stock CV's without lowering the diff. The ride is slightly stiffer than stock and I expect them to continue to ride nice for a 100k miles or so based on my other experiences with OME shocks.  I never had Bilstein's so I can't compare there.  I removed my sway bar and it still corners almost as well.

If you need new struts anyway then I would recommend them over a stock type strut but if not I wouldn't drop the $300 just for the hell of it.  They won't correct your \  / problem though.  I have just under 2" of front lift and the struts did nothing for the camber issue as far as I could tell.  However, OME springs are supposed to give you 30mm of lift and I have more like 50mm so may be that is the difference.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2010, 05:35:09 AM by Frank84 »
2001 2 Door Tracker, 4x4, 2.0, 5 speed, 215/75/15
Jeff's 2" lift, OME shocks/struts, Sh*t on the fly removed, warn hubs

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Re: Anyone on Old man EMU kit?
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2010, 05:09:16 PM »
Yes, they're meant to work with their coil springs and only as much lift as they provide.  Mine has the springs but no struts.

I don't believe the Monroes (or whatever...they're blue) are up to the task of the OME springs' spring rate and I'm hoping they do fix the alignment issue.  Not really a fan of camber bolts or grinding/cutting things.

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Re: Anyone on Old man EMU kit?
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2010, 12:48:50 AM »
I have OME struts and springs on my X-90 front, with a small (maybe 1") spacer, and camber bolts.  It's holding up well.
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Re: Anyone on Old man EMU kit?
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2010, 06:05:34 PM »
Frank84 are you getting any seal seepage on your rack and pinion boots since you've been wheeling without your sway bar for so long?   I removed my sway bar for a couple weeks (while I was looking for a squeak in the suspension) and noted my driver side R&P seal started seeping by the boot (Class 1 type leak - no drips just wetness where it use to be dry).  I installed my sway bar... and no more seepage.   The only difference I could figure is the sway bar limits the wheel drop a little and without it the wheels were dropping down farther on bumps before rebounding.  That was my experience anyway.  The actual reason for this... I'm just not sure.
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