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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2005, 07:07:18 AM »
I was planning on removing the stock injector from my TBI cos it restricts the flow. I was then going to fit a spacer under the body and mount two Weber injectors in there (I already have some injectors).
I can't see the point in blowing a 1.3, most blown installations give around 50% more power. The Sammi is 63bhp and the 1.6 16V Track/Kick 95bhp. The 1.6 would be more reliable and a lot less stressed.
Anyone know whats in the distributor for the 16V, does it have two triggers. I have a couple of Baleno (Aero?) twin output coils that I plan on using for a distributorless ignition.
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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2005, 07:11:13 AM »
Pics of the injector setup



The injectors need to be placed a little closer
to the head, and the head could be cut a little
to make placement easier.

I also think a throttle body spacer would help
with the placing of a Throttle Position sensor


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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2005, 07:14:54 AM »
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I think ( correct me if i'm wrong Wild) he is using the stock TBI for running the engine and the MS for an enrichment only. his turbo spools quite low so it is probly working all the time.

Wayne


This is correct, I use the stock ECU for cold start and idle
thru 1-2 PSI boost, after which the MS EFI system adds
more fuel according to the boost and RPM of the engine
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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2005, 07:15:17 AM »
Sweeeeeet, Bro Thanks!!!
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Did you just tap the intake or weld bungs in?

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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2005, 07:16:44 AM »
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All the talk about the low and high ohm injectors... does that only matter when you're running the stock computer, or do you want low Z injectors with the MS and turbo?

Also, can a regular MIG weld the iron elbows, or do you need anything special for that?



Most high flow injectors are Low Z, ~ 30 PPH and up

A good 220V MIG is fine for the welding
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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2005, 07:17:57 AM »
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This is correct, I use the stock ECU for cold start and idle
thru 1-2 PSI boost, after which the MS EFI system adds
more fuel according to the boost and RPM of the engine





Crap,,,,I don't have the stocker. Cant I just use the MS as a stand alone.

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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2005, 07:21:05 AM »
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 Wild, did you replace the MAP Sensor with a 2bar sensor?


Yes and No, the MegaSquirt comes with
a 2 bar MAP, and the stock MAP is still
feeding the stock ECU MAP info, the Check
Engine light pops on at about 5 PSI boost tho
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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2005, 07:22:33 AM »
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Crap,,,,I don't have the stocker. Cant I just use the MS as a stand alone.



Yes, works fine, I kept the Stock system intact
incase I have to pull the turbo stuff for a smog check
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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2005, 07:24:38 AM »
What about some of the aftermarket stand alone setups? The apexi and hks units seem too do alot and they look cool ;)
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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2005, 07:29:18 AM »
Sure, they will do the job
MSII will do the same job, and
has spark control with boost retard
all for about $200

Of coarse the cool looking box might be
worth the  $1200

BTW that pic and link, it's not an EFI Computer
it tells lies to your stock system, read it won't
work for a turbo on your system, it just piggy backs
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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2005, 07:31:54 AM »
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Yes, works fine, I kept the Stock system intact
incase I have to pull the turbo stuff for a smog check



Thats good. I'll just swap my weber and intake back on every other year (It passes NJ inspection without ANY smog gear, aside from a CAT)

I didn't think MSII was out yet.

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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2005, 07:38:19 AM »
There are 2 products coming, UltraMegaSquirt
and MSII, MSII is close to being released, and
is a CPU upgrade with some additional outputs
for ignition and I think an idle air control also.

UltraMegaSquirt is going to be out, but it still
has some R and D to go thur, tho prototypes
are out there and being tested, it will have the
ability to do auto trans shifting, and NOS control
as well as ignition, and boost retard, UMS is getting
as complex as factory ECUs are now, yet it is still
totally programable from your laptop.

Cool Huh   ;D
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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2005, 07:42:49 AM »
Yea,,Its dope. Iv always been a weber guy but Im starting to dig this FI $hit. The MSII is an addition to the MS correct? You need the MS first right?

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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2005, 07:45:37 AM »
Yes, It's a daughter card with a
new CPU and additional I/O conections
for the enhanced stuff it can do
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Re: Another turbocharging/megasquirt thread!
« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2005, 07:46:28 AM »
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There are 2 products coming, UltraMegaSquirt
and MSII, MSII is close to being released, and
is a CPU upgrade with some additional outputs
for ignition and I think an idle air control also.

UltraMegaSquirt is going to be out, but it still
has some R and D to go thur, tho prototypes
are out there and being tested, it will have the
ability to do auto trans shifting, and NOS control
as well as ignition, and boost retard, UMS is getting
as complex as factory ECUs are now, yet it is still
totally programable from your laptop.

Cool Huh   ;D



You can tell when you get Wild on a subject he likes huh ;)

Thanks
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