Well, Friday, I stopped by the Warn booth at the Arena in Moab, and started talking with a guy about my always-loosening Warn Premium Hubs.

Turns out the guy was actually the Manager of Development, not some Marketing type.  He put me on the phone with a guy at the factory, and we discussed it.

So the Warn solution (and they're sending this to me for FREE) is to remove the cap screws, and put studs in the (hmm, what's the name of that part?) axle flange, with "disturbed threads", and to put nuts on the outside, also with "disturbed threads".

I ALSO, have the Spidertrax Super Hub Bolt Kit http://www.spidertrax.com/drivetrain_shb.htm - this kit has the drills and tap to put in LARGER cap screws.   I haven't installed it yet.

So, I'm thinking of installing the Warn Studs on one side, and the Spidertrax Super Hub Bolt Kit on the other side, and give them a true side-by-side comparison.

If the Warn fix WORKS, I'll get the info so anybody can order it.

Do we have any shrinks available
for disturbed threads      

He probably said distorted threads  

HaHaHa, no I'm pretty sure the guy said "disturbed"!

Hey, we have LOTS of disturbed threads on this BBS!

Disturbed threads and disturbed nuts,
a shrink's paradise  

I'm not sure I would damage the threads.  I'd just use some hi temp lok-tite on the studs (green stuff), and regular lok-tite (blue) on the nuts.

~Nate

Well, both solutions damage the threads in one way, or another.  I have yet to see any loc-tite product hold the cap screws in, but it's still gotta be removable.

You might find that studs with nuts hold a lot better then bolts do.  (which is why most motor builders stud the head and intakes, instead of using regular bolts)

~Nate

why high temp? is there a tremendous amount of heat that develops in the hubs?, or is the green stronger than blue but not as permanent as the red.
 

Shoot, I've been using red on my current bolts - is that the "never comes out" stuff?  Well it comes out often!

Shoot, I've been using red on my current bolts - is that the "never comes out" stuff?  Well it comes out often!

Dang,
I always stay away from the red, because it's the perma-glue of Lok-tite.

I like the blue and green because they are generaly more workable.

But if you've tried the red and still no workie, maybe you should mar-tack the darn things.

(mar up{disturb} or tack weld)

~Nate

why high temp? is there a tremendous amount of heat that develops in the hubs?, or is the green stronger than blue but not as permanent as the red.
 

Yes and yes.
Hubs can get hot under heavy braking.  (which is why you use disc brake grease and not drum brake grease on your front wheel bearings.)

Yes, green is stronger then blue and not as permanent as red.

~Nate

What happens if you mix the three colors together, what color do you get then?  

What happens if you mix the three colors together, what color do you get then?  

Theoretically, you should get white, if it were light.


~Nate

We used to put the r,g,b filters together in photo class and it would come out clear, thought that was cool.

Theoretically, you should get white, if it were light.

But in reality, you would get brown.  Now class, what's brown and stinks?  Don't mix your Loc-Tite.