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Offline SnoFalls

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mazda v6
« on: June 30, 2005, 10:20:43 AM »
I know the "what engine should I swap" has been beat to death ... this isn't that.

I'm comtemplating a buggy build in the future. My goal is to stay lightweight. When it comes to engine/tranny, I think a 2.7l zuk would be perfect (all alloy so light, and mounted the "right" way). Problem is the cost ... I'd like a wrecked xl7 for a donor, but even that isn't cheap (3-4K).

In searching for some other lightweight engine choices (that get around 150hp ... pushed to possibly 200), I see the mazda 626 2.5l as a posibility. It's an all alloy engine so light. Also very easy to find (aka a donor 626 or probe is cheap). Problem is it's tranverse mounted ...

I did find a writeup where someone had mated one to his VW transaxle (custom adaptor), but he also mounted it transverse.

Any got any experience with these? I've never even seen one, so I may go peek at one at a used car dealer ...

Just curious if someone knows if it's just a pipe dream or not.
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Re: mazda v6
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2005, 10:58:57 AM »
sounds like more work than its worth, alot of custom this and that. Ford uses the same motors in cougars. Same basic thing as a 3.0ltr duratec thats used in escapes and taurus/sable cars.
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2005, 11:49:39 AM »
Same engine as Ford Probe,
    Not light, heavier than you would expect, very peaky from my driving of them anyway. Complex with all the computer stuff.
    Also have a rep for knocking out bottom ends, don't know if it's deserved.
    Also, not cheap because it's high demand.

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Re: mazda v6
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2005, 11:52:19 AM »
I've heard that the Mazda V6 are the same block as the Suzuki V6 and the Suzuki Diesel is the Mazda Diesel.  The sizes of the V6's are very similar.  Maybe a Mazda V6 will bolt to a Suzuki Gearbox with little or no problems.  It may be worth getting the tape measure out. :)
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2005, 12:43:08 PM »
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Also, not cheap because it's high demand.


running donor for $400 is cheap to me. it's not the high output jap version, but an alloy v6 running in a wreck, I could do 4 bills. And it aint just one, lots around me.

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Re: mazda v6
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2005, 12:44:09 PM »
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I've heard that the Mazda V6 are the same block as the Suzuki V6 and the Suzuki Diesel is the Mazda Diesel.  The sizes of the V6's are very similar.  Maybe a Mazda V6 will bolt to a Suzuki Gearbox with little or no problems.  It may be worth getting the tape measure out. :)


that's what I'd "heard" too ... so that's why I'm wondering.  ???
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Re: mazda v6
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2005, 01:06:13 PM »
What year is this Probe and is it the DOHC engine or a push rod?

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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2005, 06:26:55 PM »
I used to have an 89 Ford probe GT turbo, had a 2.2 l4 turbo mitsubishi motor, and a 5 SPD mitsu trany; "shucks said they did not exist" but i went to ford, when the turbo started to go at 200k miles, and they inspected  it, and said it was all stock, cept blow out valuve,  
 That motor was the snapiest motor i have had experiance with , 7000 redline, boost kicking in at 2500, never had it on a dyno,  but i raced quite a few V6 probs, and handed them there arse quickly, it would do 145 in 3rd at 6500, and i could get that in about a quarter mile, when they caned me at UPS, a coper pulled me over, said i came out of the parkin lot at 75, and hit 125 befor he could turn his lights on :P, Somone pissed me off, I blame the young and stupid thing.   But it was an all aluminium motor and trans, if one could find one and mount it sideways in a buggy, so you dont need a Transfer case, and use 2 zuk IFS front ends, I bet you it would flat Screem   and you could gear it to run in the 3k to 6k range, have a good crawler in the lower gears, and have a fast buggie in the higher gears.
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FYI i have seen them wrecked selling for 500 - 600 $$ for the whole car, and good runners selling for about 900, event thoe blue book is still 2500, most people dont know its a rare car, but Mitsu had to put that motor in somthing else?  My 2.0
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Re: mazda v6
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2005, 07:32:57 PM »
That's a Mazda Turbo motor, not Mitsubitchi  ;)
I know from all of the turbo rummaging I've done

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Re: mazda v6
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2005, 01:12:43 AM »
they are pepy little bastards to. but most turbo motors are  :P
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Re: mazda v6
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2005, 01:23:50 AM »
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What year is this Probe and is it the DOHC engine or a push rod?

Zag


'93-97 Mazda 626/Ford Probe ... yes dohc
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dorothy.bradbury/probemx/p_m18.htm

the turbo I4 was only 88-89 I think ..,.
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Re: mazda v6
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2005, 01:41:53 AM »
another good link for these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_engines

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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2005, 01:47:06 AM »
I used to have a "93 probe GT with that 2.5l motor, what a riot.  As soon as I popped the hood and saw the aluminum v-6 I also wanted to drop it in a Sammy, but never got the chance.  That car would run like a cat with it's tail on fire, and was almost as much fun.
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Re: mazda v6
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2005, 03:12:59 AM »
Hey Sno you could look at getting a motor from a nissan 240 pretty quick engines, 160 hp stock. mounted north and south.
mate it up to the nissan truck tanny and transfercase.  I always thought that the amount of power my 240 had would have been awsome in my zuk.
don't know about the wieght of the engine tho.


I can't remember is transverse east and west mounting?
any interesting topic.
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Re: mazda v6
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2005, 03:30:28 AM »
u did say buggie right do like the pros and rear mount it with the trans axle facing front to rear. order ur custom shafts and hook it up to the front and rear axle no t-case so less parts to break it would be awsume. there is a guy that runs u-roc that has this setup with a saturan motor and trans. u have to revers the front or rear r&p but all u have to get is the donor car and no adapters. u said a buggie so u will have to tow it anyway so it dosen't have to go 100 mph anyway. i am assuming it is a rock buggie. but that is just me thinking out of the box and cheep as possible yes u may have to rethink ur buggie design but it would look sweet.
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