Sounds good to me, the next steps are things i would like to consider on my rig, now that the tire size is going up, and its going to start looking like a trail rig,  
   I am one to go and push it to the limits.

Snofalls

    My experience has been at low levels of mod (like this engine) there is no advantage to defeating the emissions, as a matter of fact oftem it can cause problems.
    When you go a step or two farther I tend to eliminate it as a matter of simplicity. Up here emissions regs are still pretty loose and you can get away with a lot...but I'm sure that will change.
    I also think you're right that any well built engine is going to run pretty darn clean.....

    When we were drag racing the triple weber 240Z years ago they had a portable emission rig set up at Motor vehicles as a demo...for a laugh we took our full tilt race car (could not be street driven) down and tried it out...the techs thought we would bomb, but on steady state testing we passed all the standards for the stock car....but when you cracked the throttle that was another story.

Zag

     Looks like we've covered most everything on this build I've found a base (thanks PRD2BCDN) for the test engine and by fall I hope to be running a series of performance tests that I hope to report back on.

There you go we did it, should have a little over 90 hp
on a reasonable budget....

Zag

ok now for a little help from Eric,  would you please make this sticky or build a FAQ to place this in so we know where it is.

thanks, stu

ok now for a little help from Eric,  would you please make this sticky or build a FAQ to place this in so we know where it is.

thanks, stu

or take all the info and pics, and rewrite it into an article.

I like both ideas... just so this thread doesn't fall into oblivion with all this kickass info...

I don't mind if Eric does something like that. I did the build up to give everyone some good basic info and give back to the Zuk community seeing as you guys helped me solve my engine glitch...

Zag

Next project now underway...................

                             Project RallyKick

                Home for the engine and test bed.



Zag

Everyones comments please!


How useful did everyone find this build up?

What suggestions would you have if I was to do it again?

Should we do it again when I have time/money?

Thanks

Zag

How useful did everyone find this build up?

I found it very informative and intend to follow it to an extent when the time comes to rebuild one of my 8valve's!

What suggestions would you have if I was to do it again?

You do it to one of MY 8 valve engines for me! LOL!

Should we do it again when I have time/money?

Sure, just let me know when you have the time and money and I'll get my engine up to ya! LOL!!!

No comments?

     Well other than Digger wanting me to build him an engine!

     I was thinking of doing it again this fall/winter using a 1.6/16v but it's not looking like there is any interest.

Come on thoughts...comments...good or bad.

Zag

Zag, I think it's a great idea. Definately do it. These sorts of posts remain useful into the future for others who may not even have a Kick yet. The more detail and pics the better, kinda like holding someones hand who has never done it before and walking them through the process. It's the little things and why that you do as second nature that can be quite important to an easy build that the average joe may not think of doing that can be very useful. Also point out as you go along any options that could be done at the time while it's apart and more cost effective or left out if not absolutely necessary to save $$$. Are you looking at any mods for the 16v while it's apart?

Hi CJ

     I'm thinking when the time comes to do a different build going for real low rpm power with a big torque boost under 4000rpm. I've been around you folks long enough now that I understand while I may like the high revvin stuff,  big torque is more useful for most of the 4X4 crowd.
     I've been kickin a couple of thoughts around with "Wild" on and off so maybe a stroker with the right cam and velocity increasing port work or a mildly boosted engine that gets full boost before 3500rpm with a killer torquer camshaft.
     From most of the stuff I've seen the average 4x4 guy could use 20% more torque |removethispart|@ 2000-3000 more than he could use 30% more horsepower at 6500rpm

Thanks for you thoughts and reply

Zag

     I'm thinking when the time comes to do a different build going for real low rpm power with a big torque boost under 4000rpm. I've been around you folks long enough now that I understand while I may like the high revvin stuff,  big torque is more useful for most of the 4X4 crowd.
     I've been kickin a couple of thoughts around with "Wild" on and off so maybe a stroker with the right cam and velocity increasing port work or a mildly boosted engine that gets full boost before 3500rpm with a killer torquer camshaft.
     From most of the stuff I've seen the average 4x4 guy could use 20% more torque |removethispart|@ 2000-3000 more than he could use 30% more horsepower at 6500rpm

Thanks for you thoughts and reply

Zag

now thats what we're talking about. more torque is the go. i would be interested in this. and i'd like to thank you Zag, for this thread and all the tech you bring with it, because where i am, theres not many people who would be interested in owning a vitara, let alone doing anything in these threads. so i say keep them all coming, whatever you build, as it will be useful to more people than you might know.

i dont think there are any rules about linking threads from here to another forum, but i have been doing that. if there are any rules about it, let me know please. i have been working on a "Vitara Bible" on an aussie forum, and i have several links from here in the 'bible'. i have been slack lately, as most of the old links dont work anymore, and i have to find them all again. take a look if you like.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=48779&sid=8a401a78af5e17d9575fb2e5de3d85ca

once again, thank you Zag, and keep up the great work.
Cheers

If we get a few more comments like these I'll get serious about a fall build up.

SiKid_01 and everyone in general

     Surprisingly building low rpm torque is tougher than building high rpm horsepower, but it can be done reasonably (I think).
     Big horsepower is a matter of more air at higher rpm...the big rpm makes it easier to do.

     Low rpm torque is tougher as you have to accomplish the same goals with out the benefit of rpm. Intake velocities and exhaust velocities need to be higher for a given rpm....camshaft need less duration (to reduce peak rpm) and greater lift (to increase cylinder filling) and that can make for some interesting valve train problems.
     Intake and exhaust design is different because you not only need to reduce restriction, you have to also increase velocity to get the mixture in and out at the lower rpm.

     It can be done but from what I have seen there is little to nothing off the shelf to make it easy.

     I think to make this build worthwhile we would need to go deeper into the theory and the how to build the parts.

What do you guys think?

Zag