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Re: Solid Axle Donor Vehicle
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2005, 01:13:48 PM »
Other option outside of the SYE: Add a 2wd tranny and a sammi case! Then you have fixed yolks.

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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2005, 01:17:01 PM »
i had a mag that had all of the axel spects for jeeps ,but cant find it now . i do rember seeing a jeep cherokee chief or somthing like that .fullsize that was a dana 44 rite hand drive that was pretty close to the same width.
i should have piked it up they only wanted $150 for it at a u wrench it salvage yard .but i came home to find out what it was for shur and 2 days later it was gone. as far as sye it can be done  ;) just find a machiene shop in your aera that you can take it to .

Eric dont you have sas ? and what are your spring rates? and what shocks . i was beating myself to death tring to keep up with you and Hutch leaveing pritchet canyon!

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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2005, 02:24:56 PM »
Just found this http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-corner/facts/axles/axle.htm Select a manufacturer then scroll to the bottom for width info.

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Re: Solid Axle Donor Vehicle
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2005, 03:20:11 PM »
here is a chart i find useful when picking my axle. i tried to paste it it was all messed up dana 30 out of a jeep a wid track is 56" and a narrow is 53" and they r right hand pumpkin. i would go with a 9" rear. i have seen lots of guys run front dana 30 with 35s on a wrangler and never break. hey the bolt patteren look at that 5 on 5 1/2. not as strong as a yota but no body wants em.
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i got both of mine for $55. very good thought on that 9" but they're going fast every one wants one. here is the axle info page if u want to view.  http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-corner/facts/axles/axle.htm
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2005, 03:23:29 PM »
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Just found this http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-corner/facts/axles/axle.htm Select a manufacturer then scroll to the bottom for width info.


sorry i guess i should have read the rest of the post. very informative site wouldn't u say. i have e-maled the guy a couple of times he has great info on tag I.D. so u can knoe the gear set before u buy it. i found a 9" for my jeep with 29 spline and 4.56 gears from stock. saved alot of time and cash.
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Re: Solid Axle Donor Vehicle
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2005, 03:25:56 PM »
No worries ;D It is a very good site.

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Re: Solid Axle Donor Vehicle
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2005, 02:44:28 AM »
Why wouldn't the Land Rover Discovery axles work? Using the Kicker3 setup with a Sami case, the offset axles would work well with the ds.
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Re: Solid Axle Donor Vehicle
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2005, 03:26:57 AM »
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Why wouldn't the Land Rover Discovery axles work? Using the Kicker3 setup with a Sami case, the offset axles would work well with the ds.


Are they 5 on 5.5?  Same bolt pattern?

If somebody can find the 'magic donor' vehicle it would really help us all.

I've searched high and low for the perfect fit.  And have even gone as far as making my own Hybrid Suzuki front end.

We've found that the FJ80 LC axles have the correct offset and have lots of kewl features available to them.  Sure, they are a bit wider, but not outrageously so.  Especially if you guys are already runing greater than stock off-set rims, ~3.75.  The LC axles with normal offset rims, just might be your answer.

(it's not too wide.)


The major downside of FC80, LC axles might be considered the cost.  But if you add up the costs to make any other axle equipped with selectable lockers, full floater rear axles, high pinions, and front AND rear disc brakes, it really ends up being a wash in the end.

Please, if anybod's got anything closer let us know!

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« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2005, 07:12:54 AM »
Let me guess ... you're aired down in that pic cuz that's the only way to get it in the garage  ;D
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Re: Solid Axle Donor Vehicle
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2005, 07:39:16 AM »
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Are they 5 on 5.5?  Same bolt pattern?

If somebody can find the 'magic donor' vehicle it would really help us all.

I've searched high and low for the perfect fit.  And have even gone as far as making my own Hybrid Suzuki front end.

We've found that the FJ80 LC axles have the correct offset and have lots of kewl features available to them.  Sure, they are a bit wider, but not outrageously so.  Especially if you guys are already runing greater than stock off-set rims, ~3.75.  The LC axles with normal offset rims, just might be your answer.

(it's not too wide.)


The major downside of FC80, LC axles might be considered the cost.  But if you add up the costs to make any other axle equipped with selectable lockers, full floater rear axles, high pinions, and front AND rear disc brakes, it really ends up being a wash in the end.

Please, if anybod's got anything closer let us know!

~Nate


I was just mentioning it as a possibility due to the offset axles. To add, prices for their axles, complete with arms, brakes, and steering, is roughly under ~$300 in the midwest!! The wheel lugs are 5, but don't know the configuration. The axles are encased (closed knuckle), have splined drive flanges, available gearing up to 4.8, air or cable lockers available, drop out centers, 4-wheel discs with matching rear, and in some models, rear full floater and drive flange pinions. Similar to that of the Toy FJ80's, but with much less upfront cost, hehe. Note: most stock axles won't have the deep gears or lockers. Just special models will have this. Lastly to add, the drag link for the front axle is high mounted on the knuckle (above it acutally) and the tie rod is behind the axle. The control arms are similar design to that of the FJ80s with the front of axle and rear of axle mounts. Mounting these to the Suzuki frame would be rather easy with a simple mount or crossmember. About the only problem would be the coil spring mount (not knowing the coil mount width on the axle or frame width).

Mind you, Land Rover is not as popular as Toyota for parts, and will probably pay a great $$$ at dealerships for small item parts, the late model Discovery model weighs nearly 5800#s, I figure the axles could endure underneath a Suzuki. Though do look at all the US aftermarket sources for the Land Rover Defender90, Discovery, and 110.

PS. I missed out getting the front axle for $250 from a Discovery almost locally. The arms, coils, steering, brakes, everything complete. Matching rear would be added for a mire $200. DS extra but probably cheap.
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Re: Solid Axle Donor Vehicle
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2005, 11:31:22 AM »
but fj 80 axels are not easy to find !!!=$$$

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Re: Solid Axle Donor Vehicle
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2005, 12:06:17 PM »
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I was just mentioning it as a possibility due to the offset axles. To add, prices for their axles, complete with arms, brakes, and steering, is roughly under ~$300 in the midwest!! The wheel lugs are 5, but don't know the configuration. The axles are encased (closed knuckle), have splined drive flanges, available gearing up to 4.8, air or cable lockers available, drop out centers, 4-wheel discs with matching rear, and in some models, rear full floater and drive flange pinions. Similar to that of the Toy FJ80's, but with much less upfront cost, hehe. Note: most stock axles won't have the deep gears or lockers. Just special models will have this. Lastly to add, the drag link for the front axle is high mounted on the knuckle (above it acutally) and the tie rod is behind the axle. The control arms are similar design to that of the FJ80s with the front of axle and rear of axle mounts. Mounting these to the Suzuki frame would be rather easy with a simple mount or crossmember. About the only problem would be the coil spring mount (not knowing the coil mount width on the axle or frame width).

Mind you, Land Rover is not as popular as Toyota for parts, and will probably pay a great $$$ at dealerships for small item parts, the late model Discovery model weighs nearly 5800#s, I figure the axles could endure underneath a Suzuki. Though do look at all the US aftermarket sources for the Land Rover Defender90, Discovery, and 110.

PS. I missed out getting the front axle for $250 from a Discovery almost locally. The arms, coils, steering, brakes, everything complete. Matching rear would be added for a mire $200. DS extra but probably cheap.



Oh no, I was just asking because they are all over around here.  I never bothered to check because I always thought that Land Rover products might be more expensive then Toyota.

This might be a great idea.

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Re: Solid Axle Donor Vehicle
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2005, 12:07:49 PM »
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Let me guess ... you're aired down in that pic cuz that's the only way to get it in the garage  ;D


Yah, that was the first time we pulled it out after build.
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Re: Solid Axle Donor Vehicle
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2005, 12:09:08 PM »
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but fj 80 axels are not easy to find !!!=$$$

In the North West, they've been pretty easy to find.

When we got ours there were several sets in most of the near-by auto salvage lots.  (within 100 miles)

And their price ranged wildly.
~Nate