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Re:  Lock-Right Lockers for Sidekick
« on: September 30, 2003, 03:56:31 AM »
I'm contemplating on getting one so I'd like a few words of enlightenment:

1.  Could you clarify to me how the lockrite works.  This is how I understand it:  From a standstill while on paved roads, the lockrite locker is disengaged.  So even if I drive the vehicle straight or make some turns, it remains disengaged, thus the my differential is basically an "open" type.  However, once I'm driving offroad and one of my rear wheels loses traction, spins unnecessarily and slips, that’s when the lockrite differential locks.  Since it is engaged already, whenever I do some turns, I would hear the "clicking" sound wherein the lockrite allows the inner wheels to rotate less than the outer wheels while assuming a turn so as to prevent a "binding" effect.  Am I right?

2.  Is this clicking sound continuous? Or shall I hear just one click when the lockrite engages and another click when it disengages?

Thanks in advance!
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Re:  Lock-Right Lockers for Sidekick
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2003, 02:55:31 PM »
Tick-tick-tick-tick-tick as long as you
are going around a corner, or until you
gas it  :D then rubber squeals and Tick stops
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Re:  Lock-Right Lockers for Sidekick
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2003, 11:32:58 PM »
You basically have it correct.  The only time you hear the clicking is when you are cornering, unless it locks.  Then as wildgoody said, you get a thump and tire squeal as one wheel slides on the pavement.  

Occasionally, you will get a loud bang as it releases when you are cornering under power, and the vehicle will change direction very subtly as the power vector goes from being on one side of the vehicle to the center (or vice-versa)

The Lock-Right will lock up when one wheel rotates faster than the other, and power is applied.  It takes a slightly different driving style to keep it from locking up on every corner, but if you offroad, the locker is worth it's weight in gold.  
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Re:  Lock-Right Lockers for Sidekick
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2003, 02:38:39 AM »
Loud bang is an understatment. Dont get me wrong , I agree the lockers are great. Just try not to pee your pants when it engages hard for the first time.  If I hadnt had ridden in a locker equipped vehicle before I put mine in I would have swore I broke an axle or something. Oh and get used to alot of funny looks , and people telling you that you have something broken in the rear end.
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Re:  Lock-Right Lockers for Sidekick
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2003, 06:48:52 AM »
Yeah, I should have been a little mor specific about the loud bang.  Take a sledge hammer and smack your rear differential.  That's the kind of loud bang we're talking about  :o !  Scares the isht out of passengers when they hear it for the first time.  ;D
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Re:  Lock-Right Lockers for Sidekick
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2003, 06:05:34 PM »
Ya, Big Bang Theory, I keep thinking one of these days those
little pins are going to shear and then I'll have 3 forward
speeds going nowherel  :o  (Auto Trans) I get a few Clinks too.

And those tiny little springs, how could they do anything???
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Re:  Lock-Right Lockers for Sidekick
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2003, 11:08:45 PM »
The little springs keep a slight pressure on the couplers to ensure that they engage when torque is applied.  If they were any stronger, the locker wouldn't release at all.  All of the springs provide pressure in the lateral direction, so they aren't subject to the torque the axle sees.  The four small springs that butt up against the center pin keep everything from slapping around and rattling.  They don't have to be strong to do their job.

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Re:  Lock-Right Lockers for Sidekick
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2003, 11:47:25 PM »
Hey all, :)
 I was wondering, is this lock-rite operation similar to how a Detroit gearless works, or is it a completely different principle? Was wondering cause a rear locker is on the winter project list for the sami.  Any pro/cons between the two would be helpful.
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Re:  Lock-Right Lockers for Sidekick
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2003, 02:54:11 AM »
Ive installed bolth the lockright and the detroit ez locker, and to be honest I could not tell the difference. They even looked to be made by the same company.I.E. the boxes were same exact dimensions even just diferent colors.  Now that reider racing owns the lockright the box has changed but contents are the same. Personally I run the powertrax locker cause I can order em through work but I think there identical.
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Re:  Lock-Right Lockers for Sidekick
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2003, 11:54:54 AM »
Hmm, never heard of Reider Racing.  According to Powertrax's website, they are now owned by Richmond Gear, and when I just got the 3 I installed, all the paperwork and stickers were from Richmond Gear.  


Maybe they outlet them through Reider Racing on the west coast?  


Yeah, and they pretty much are identical to the Detroit.  Same principle, very similar design, same operation.
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Re:  Lock-Right Lockers for Sidekick
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2003, 02:28:55 PM »
No your right. It is richmond gear. Sorry I work in a parts store for a living and when I am home I get names mixxed up. Gotta stop smokin the crack I guess.
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Re:  Lock-Right Lockers for Sidekick
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2003, 03:10:54 PM »
I got the Detroit, was told by the 4x4 shop
that it was the same maker as EZ locker
just different distributor, works anyway, did
the install myself, easy to do if you got some
mech apptitude.  :)
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Re:  Lock-Right Lockers for Sidekick
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2003, 08:28:11 AM »
So with a locker what happens when you hit an off ramp going 70mph  (i have a X90, not a Samy) and are doing some hard cornering on pavement, will you be OK as long as you don't spin a wheel? Or do you have to stay off the gas entirely? Been thinken about a locker but don't wanna go sideways in any nasty turns off the interstate
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Re:  Lock-Right Lockers for Sidekick
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2003, 10:44:08 AM »
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I'm contemplating on getting one so I'd like a few words of enlightenment:

1.  Could you clarify to me how the lockrite works.  This is how I understand it:  From a standstill while on paved roads, the lockrite locker is disengaged.  So even if I drive the vehicle straight or make some turns, it remains disengaged, thus the my differential is basically an "open" type.  However, once I'm driving offroad and one of my rear wheels loses traction, spins unnecessarily and slips, that’s when the lockrite differential locks.  Since it is engaged already, whenever I do some turns, I would hear the "clicking" sound wherein the lockrite allows the inner wheels to rotate less than the outer wheels while assuming a turn so as to prevent a "binding" effect.  Am I right?

2.  Is this clicking sound continuous? Or shall I hear just one click when the lockrite engages and another click when it disengages?

Thanks in advance!



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Re:  Lock-Right Lockers for Sidekick
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2003, 10:56:18 AM »
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So with a locker what happens when you hit an off ramp going 70mph  (i have a X90, not a Samy) and are doing some hard cornering on pavement, will you be OK as long as you don't spin a wheel? Or do you have to stay off the gas entirely? Been thinken about a locker but don't wanna go sideways in any nasty turns off the interstate


If you stay hard on the gas, the locker will stay locked and you will slide one tire.  If you let up on the gas, the locker will release.  I drive my Sammy pretty hard (as hard as you can with a 65hp motor  ::)  ) and I've never had an issue with it cornering at speed.  The corners I notice it most in are when I turn after coming to a stop at an intersection.  Then I get wheel hop and tire chirp if I forget to start the turn before I get in the throttle.
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