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Front spring sag?
« on: September 24, 2003, 02:59:22 AM »
I have a newly installed Calmini 3" suspension lift and I may have a problem. Steve at Calmini had told me that the front may sit high until the bumper and winch are installed.  I dont have a winch and my bumper is not as heave as Calmini's but the front sits lower than the rear and the tops of my tires are leaning in toward the inner wheel wells a bit. I have an exoskeleton but I have more weight from that on the rear than the front.

If I use a 1/2" spring spacer will it actually raise it 1/2" ? I really dont want to cover up a problem with a spacer but then again I dont know if this is a problem or not.

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Bill

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Re: Front spring sag?
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2003, 04:41:13 AM »
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If I use a 1/2" spring spacer will it actually raise it 1/2" ? I really dont want to cover up a problem with a spacer but then again I dont know if this is a problem or not.

Thanks,
Bill


Actually, a spacer that measures 1/2" longer than stock will lift the frontend close to an 1" because of the ratio on the spring.

Check our "Wheeler's Spring Spacer" article in the archives.

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Re: Front spring sag?
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2003, 09:58:45 AM »
  Is the rear set up pretty light? Spare on the back? Any gear? Mabey the front isnt low, mabey the rear is high.  I have been running one of the first 3 inch kits made. I am still running the same coils that the kit came with. Yea the kit settled about 1 inch after install but it stayed there. It took about 2 weeks to settle. Ive now had the kit for at least 2 years I think. I dont remember any exact date. Another posibility is the front settled faster than the rear.  I did add a 1/2 inch spacer to the front but thats I think that had to be done to support the steel 7.5 diff I made. That thing weighs a lot more than you would think it does. :( Ya gotta keep in mind these things are very weight sensitive.

 This reminds me of a funny story!  ::) So me and a couple of buddys were going to our 4WD meeting and we all piled into my tracker. Im driving and "buddy #1" was in the passenger front "buddy#2" in the passenger rear. "buddy #1 and #2 = about 550lbs. I = 200lbs Anybody see a problem?  Other people from our club were following behind. When we got to our meeting one of em yells "Somebody needs to eat a salad!"  :o Aparently we were leaning to the right pretty hard! :P

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Re: Front spring sag?
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2003, 11:06:21 AM »
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Yeah right, soaking wet holding four big-macs you might weigh 200lbs. :)

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Re: Front spring sag?
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2003, 12:39:28 PM »
Mike,

I have a full size spare w/steel rim and a small tool box mounted in the rear. If I measure the space from the tire to fender opening the front has 7" and the rear has 8 1/2".  Measure yours for me and let me know what you have. I run 33x12.50 TSL Radails. The thing that really bothers me is the top of the wheels tilting inward. Like this    //      \\      those are tires - lol.  Thats if your looking at the front of the vehicle. If a 3/4" spacer gave 1 1/2" lift a 1/2" spacer would probably do the trick.

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Bill

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Re: Front spring sag?
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2003, 01:14:45 PM »
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Yeah right, soaking wet holding four big-macs you might weigh 200lbs. :)

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Actually 205lbs DI*K

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Re: Front spring sag?
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2003, 01:17:15 PM »
Bill

How much up travel does your strut have when its sittin at 7"? Im going to go measure mine and post it in a minute.

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Re: Front spring sag?
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2003, 01:26:12 PM »
Cut off that pony tail and I bet you drop 45 lbs!  8)
The Zuke is on its way out.  Getting a vehicle that will behave and be supported by the dealer.

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Re: Front spring sag?
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2003, 01:32:35 PM »
Im runnin at 7 inches all around. I have two inches of up travel on the strut. Thats about 3 at the wheel I belive. These measurements were taken with 35s on 8 inch rims. I do notice that with 10 inch rims the front sits lower. More leverage I suppose.

Another thing I forgot. Trackick's sit 1 inch high in the rear stock. :-[
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Re: Front spring sag?
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2003, 01:33:45 PM »
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Cut off that pony tail and I bet you drop 45 lbs!  8)



Mabey 4.5 lbs!
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Re: Front spring sag?
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2003, 01:39:19 PM »
ha hahha.....

Hey Mike Hagen, I went to your site again, hit the map layout and lo and behold I actually have been in your area. Small world. I was at Barron installing a Novell POS system, in Amery doing a server upgrade, and HOlcombe installing a five user Novell network system! This was a few years back, but those towns are real close to your off road places.
ALso Ashland, wayyyyyyy up on the lake, rice lake, and a followup vist in Chetek.  

Small world huh? :o
The Zuke is on its way out.  Getting a vehicle that will behave and be supported by the dealer.

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Re: Front spring sag?
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2003, 02:52:00 PM »
If the Tracker sits 1" high in the rear Im only 1/2" off then. Ill measure the up travel tomorrow morning and post it. Ive pulled up on the bumper and it is at least 2" but Ill check it for sure.

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Bill

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Re: Front spring sag?
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2003, 03:17:55 PM »
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Actually 205lbs DI*K

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Re: Front spring sag?
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2003, 01:19:33 AM »
I checked my up travel. measured from the top of the tire to the fender edge I have 2 1/2" of up travel on the strut. Also I have 8" rims on mine.

Bill
« Last Edit: September 25, 2003, 01:21:12 AM by brlj »

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Re: Front spring sag?
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2003, 12:12:02 PM »
If you add a spacer that wont give you much up travel. 1 1/2 inches it sounds like. You could flip the strut plate if you have enough travel on the cv. Then you would be back at 2 1/2.

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