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Sidekick-Lockers-front alum.casing
« on: January 23, 2004, 07:27:58 AM »
Hi everyone.I searched through all the topics but I didnt find the info I want for lockers,apart from some relevant topics (ARB vs Detroit,e.t.c) .I  have just installed a Detroit EZ locker in the rear axle of my sidekick.I test it today,it works nice.But I want some more info.Here are my questions :
1) When I start from stop ,I have the impression that first the rear left wheel is engaged and in a sec the right.Could it be possible or it's just my idea ?
2)What should I watch out when driving using a locker?
For example when I start turning ,it starts clicking.But if I enter the turn with a little throtlle,its o.k.If I enter the turn with no throttle,the truck seems to be stressed somehow.What is the right way to use when turning or approaching turns ?
3)I read that many of you use automatic lockers also in the front axle.I would like to use one too.But the limited experience that I have till now about driving with lockers,troubles me.Is it o.k to install an auto locker in the front axle ?I mean if I get used to the use of lockers would it be o.k or it would be safer to install an ARB ?
Could you propose what is the best combination of auto lockers (front-rear) for a sidekick ?
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Offline Natebert

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Re: Lockers-sidekick
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2004, 08:32:35 AM »
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3)I read that many of you use automatic lockers also in the front axle.I would like to use one too.But the limited experience that I have till now about driving with lockers,troubles me.Is it o.k to install an auto locker in the front axle ?I mean if I get used to the use of lockers would it be o.k or it would be safer to install an ARB ?
Could you propose what is the best combination of auto lockers (front-rear) for a sidekick ?


I'd think that any type locker in the front of these alum housing units would destroy it in a hurry.

~Nate

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Re: Lockers-sidekick
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2004, 08:51:52 AM »
Your rear locker sounds normal. You will get used to driving it and it will seem less extreme.

As far as the front click on artical archives (at the bottom of the page) then click on tech. On the right in a grey shaded area there is a tech artical on how to install a locker into the front of a trackick.

Mike
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Re: Lockers-sidekick
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2004, 09:11:22 AM »
ya you can't instal a locker in the stock houseing.  i'm getting a steel one in a few weeks.  then mabey next winter i'll lock up the front.

P.S.  on like page 2 thir is a everyones mods thread,  sigh it.

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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2004, 10:23:04 AM »
I am also gonna put a locker in the rear and I was wanting to put one up front. I have the alum housing. Is that a bad idea? How weak exactly are the alum housings? Where is a good place to buy a steel one or should I save up for an anvil? Thanks


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Re: Lockers-sidekick
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2004, 12:00:38 PM »
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  How weak exactly are the alum housings? Where is a good place to buy a steel one or should I save up for an anvil? Thanks
Jacob
I am on my third front diff housing and I am not locked in front. If I was going to continue to build the tracker, I would get the anvil and an ARB and call it good.
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2004, 12:48:38 PM »
i got my steel third from hawk suzuki for 235.00 pretty pricy but well worth it ;)
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Re: Lockers-sidekick
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2004, 02:09:31 PM »
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Have had a locker ( Lock-Right and now Lincoln for 4 years in the front I have NEVER broken a front housing.


I cant see why.... Hmmm, unless its because you play in the rocks primarily.  ??? I always broke my front aluminum housings while either mudd'n or sand climbs or anytime the front tires were wingin and got quick traction. Crawling I never had a problem.

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Re: Lockers-sidekick
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2004, 02:17:03 PM »
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As far as the front click on artical archives (at the bottom of the page) then click on tech. On the right in a grey shaded area there is a tech artical on how to install a locker into the front of a trackick.
Mike

Thanks Mike.I ve read all the relative articles in this forum.You are reffering to the use of a sammy 4 pin carrier and the installation procedure,if I m right.I have that in my mind.I ve read all your articles too. :)
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2004, 02:22:37 PM »
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I'd think that any type locker in the front of these alum housing units would destroy it in a hurry.~Nate


I ve listed my truck's mods in the topic "everyone's mods".
In a few words,among other mods ,I have installed
Calmini 3"+3",Anvil,3rd steel member from GV 2.5-V6,Calmini R&P 5,83:1,Calmini idler arm brace (simple but offers much)
And yes,I ve already broken the alum.casing.It breaks easily.
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Re: Lockers-sidekick
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2004, 02:30:03 PM »
Thank you for your replies till now.
I just wanted to see what do you think about installing auto lockers in the front differential,and maybe your proposals about what the best combination of using auto lockers (f-r) would  be.As for puting a locker in the front diff I m concerned mainly for safety reasons and steering control.I m not an experienced off-road driver even though I ve modified my truck in such a way ,as to reduce damage possibility.You can check the mods in the "everyones mods" topic,as I mentioned previously.
I also worry for the safety of the Richmond gears safety in my front diff... :'(.
Also if you can mention some driving tips (when cornering,in mud) when driving with lockers,I think it will be good info for every non experienced off road driver.
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Re: Lockers-sidekick
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2004, 03:35:24 PM »
Here's a mod that might save the stock
diff from breaking so easily, I plan on
going to an ARB up front, and this is what
I will be doing to strengthen the 3rd member.

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GRVIT

Re: Lockers-sidekick
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2004, 06:25:58 PM »
yes but the passenger's side casing mount (the 3bolt one) remains a weak point,doesn't it ?
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Re: Lockers-sidekick
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2004, 10:38:53 PM »
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yes but the passenger's side casing mount (the 3bolt one) remains a weak point,doesn't it ?
The whole thing is a weak point!
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Re: Lockers-sidekick
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2004, 02:36:24 AM »
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yes but the passenger's side casing mount (the 3bolt one) remains a weak point,doesn't it ?


Yes, to a point, I filled in the "hollow" spot between the
3 bolts, I just kept welding until it was full and retapped
the broken hole, I had some loose and missing bolts, so
I consider that break my fault for not checking everything.

I had to do a neutral drop to get out of a hole some *#&|removethispart|@ard
dug at the top of this sand dune, bout swallowed the trucklet
and I got that dent in the "cheek" of my fender from rolling
on the side and back upright, If I'd a caught the *#&|removethispart|@ard I
would of done somthing I'd regret, man I was pissed about
that.
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