Yep, that’s kind of why I’m locked up on it too.  After owning a true Trac in a Tacoma I really rather have one over a locker of any variety.  The true Trac improves gravel and wet road and ice performance SO much where a locker either makes no difference (arb) or makes it downright dangerous (autolocker) that is take the true Trac any day, and get an arb in front before the rear. 

I’m fairly certain these Russian units will fit, but I’m not 100% which makes it hard to throw $500 at (not to mention a lot of nasty work to change out)

Well that’s a pisser.  I asked the seller.  They responded that they sell a lot of these to us market and never had a return.  Not sure if that’s because the part fit or because you can’t return to Russia lol.  I guess I’ll be the test mule on this as I really want a lsd on this thing.  It will cost half of what the whole truck did, but hey that’s only because I got it so cheap.

Perhaps this photo might help for 108mm vs 118mm  12 bolt. 
https://tinyurl.com/y7xlntpq

Hmm, maybe.  But that’s front vs rear or?  What are they trying to telling us?

Hmm, maybe.  But that’s front vs rear or?  What are they trying to telling us?

Seems like all the Ebay ads refer to the same LSD unit from VAL-Racing  Some ads are better than others at explaining.

The ones from a seller at 'jetready.ru'  seems to provide greater details and my '97 Sport is listed, as rear only.

Regardless, It looks like you can expect to pay 25-35% of the overall cost in shipping.   

I'm not as sold on ARB Air actuated units,  The one I have in my Samurai (Toyota Front) bleeds off air and kicks on the compressor. Seems like they all do it.

I don't want a 'lunchbox' locker for a street-able vehicle,   I'd love an electric actuated locker but unless I'm willing to swap out an entire rear end and bracketry its not happening.

I'm not willing to write it off and it requires some more research and actual user info, not just seller details so I'll continue to look.

Yes please dig up some info on these.  I’m sure if we spoke Russian we could find some info on them. The zooks seem to be well represented in Russia. 

Yes please dig up some info on these.  I’m sure if we spoke Russian we could find some info on them. The zooks seem to be well represented in Russia.

More info on https://4x4com.ru/   using google translate and currency converter,  20,000 rubles  works out at the time of this writing as $318.80

The Ebayers seem to like their markups..  And their cut on shipping too.      Now to see if the Manufacturer would sell direct.  Or even if some place like https://4x4com.ru/ would ship to the US.

Can't hurt to do some legwork.

Ask them to do a group buy.  Might be able to twist my arm on one. 

http://www.val-racing.ru/shop/product/differentsial-povyshennogo-treniya-differentsial-povyshennogo-treniya-suzuki-grand-vitara-suzuki-grand-vitara-

Looks like they are on sale right now at the mfg, $240.

I might be able to acquire the services of a translator to facilitate this. 

Quote from: Phase change on May 05, 2018, 11:57:16 AM

No I’ve been saving up or rather trying to justify it for a while.  So far, can’t.

Thx for the reply,  The specs listed by the sellers on ebay make it hard to tell if it will fit anyway.

I can't justify an ARB but also don't want a lunchbox locker either as the '97 Sport is intended to be daily driver and we get Ice here in Va alot.

ARB's are similar to winches.  They are pricey, but when you need them their value shows.  I do not use mine much even on trails, but on trails I always have my air compressor pressurized and a flip of the switch and I locked.  On Moab's "slick rock" turning with the rear locked is more difficult so it is easier to only have them locked when actually needed.
I ran the "lunch box" lockers for over a year and would use a spool before installing another one.  (I know "it was not set up correctly", but I could never find correct.)

I’d love an arb in front for the reasons you say, but not enough to justify the cost.  The torsen rear diff is a whole different animal however and can’t be compared to a locker. 

Well I contacted Val racing.  They replied right away and kind,y said they don’t ship abroad but gave me an email of a dealer for them who will.  I wrote them and he also replied quickly but just sent me back to one of the more expensive eBay results.  So, we are back to eBay I guess.   There are several stores in Russia offering them but I don’t speak Russian.  And I’d rather rely on eBay anyway because they offer protections. 

Well I contacted Val racing.  They replied right away and kind,y said they don’t ship abroad but gave me an email of a dealer for them who will.  I wrote them and he also replied quickly but just sent me back to one of the more expensive eBay results.  So, we are back to eBay I guess.   There are several stores in Russia offering them but I don’t speak Russian.  And I’d rather rely on eBay anyway because they offer protections.

Well having to go through ebay does offer the protections but it comes with the additional fees for shipping costs and you can't get the sales   That kind of stinks.

I know.  Well I’m not sure how to proceed.  I guess 450$ isn’t bad considering.  Just sucks when you see the actual price is only $240 on sale right now. 

I know.  Well I’m not sure how to proceed.  I guess 450$ isn’t bad considering.  Just sucks when you see the actual price is only $240 on sale right now.

It's still less than half the price of an ARB..  I do like my ARB.. mostly but  I've never been able to completely solve the bleed down no matter how hard I've tried.    The ARB is more than I paid for the 97 Sport entirely, And then having to pay to get them setup (I will setup trail rig 3rds but not one for the street).

Yes it’s a good deal.  Funny, I had no problem putting one in my Tacoma for 550$ but it was a 20k$ rig, this tracker was only 1100$ so it seems odd to put a 445$ diff in it lol.  But, I like the rig enough and I do think it would benefit from it especially living where I do on gravel.   I know I’m getting closer to pulling the trigger because I bought gear oil at other night lol.