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1/2ton running gear with IFS on a samurai

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1/2ton running gear with IFS on a samurai
« on: July 31, 2015, 11:14:45 PM »
I have a 88 JA samurai and trial ride often. I run 33" tires with a lot of backspacing. Trial riding plus mud plus a lot of stress on my wheel bearings make my maintenance never ending. I am tired of packing hubs and buying bearings plus breaking a axle once a year. I looked at some side by side ORVs and found many of them have IFS. The problem most people have with IFS is breaking things on a truck that's heavy and in a bad bind. The other problem is flex or articulation but that is because of sway bars or hard suspension made for towing a loaded vehicle over rough ground. So if you were to put half ton IFS on a little samurai with soft coil springs you could flex and you wouldn't have enough power or mass to break the IFS. Has anyone done IFS on a samurai? If so pleas post pictures or videos
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Offline Jonny Rash

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Re: 1/2ton running gear with IFS on a samurai
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2015, 09:17:32 AM »
It would likely require more than a few weekends to adapt an IFS system to a Samurai.   It would be much easier, and likely less costly in the long run to purchase a Tracker/Sidekick...or a RZR.  8) 

FYI, I run 32" MT tires with 2-1/2" backspacing, locked front and rear, and it is a very reliable setup.  It really doesn't require much maintenance either.  I rarely break axles or have wheel bearing problems. 

It sounds like your bearings are either having the grease washed out or some other problem.  Are you installing quality Japanese bearings & seals, and putting RTV on metal to metal surfaces?  Are you covering many deep water crossings?

« Last Edit: August 03, 2015, 09:24:36 AM by Jonny Rash »
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Re: 1/2ton running gear with IFS on a samurai
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2015, 09:24:30 AM »
This is funny, i had a similar idea but for a sidekick. I havent seen any sami ifs rigs myself, but there isn't any reason you couldn't make it work. So the idea is good, after all guys with 5000 pound, 350+hp rigs can run around on 35+ inch tires, a little zuk could get away with more simply being lighter. Plus, i have a long travel fetish and most LT kits for any rig out there is costly, so i wanted to drop ifs from a newer fullsize tundra on a kick. I figured tundra would be better than 2500 gm ifs for a few reason: coilovers instead of torsion bars (i think any t-bar will be indexted too stiff), 6 lug pattern (aren't they?) Instead of 8, making matching wheels with an fj80 or yota real axle convenient.  Also, totalchaos makes nice UCAs that boost the travel a couple of inches. A fullsize ifs will have more travel, be tougher and have stronger brakes and a wider track width.
Only problems i see are: the additional weight and the track width being too wide. Its not like proper ground up deigned LT stuff where the U&LCAs are mounted close to the center of the frame as possible. With a different diff you could probably narrow it down along with some modified CVs but that's beyond me.

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Re: 1/2ton running gear with IFS on a samurai
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2015, 05:52:13 AM »
Yes Toyota would be a better source but I just have to come across some one who has sold out a solid axle on there truck and wants to sale the IFS hopefully I can. I need to check some junk yards around here and see what I can find. ???

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Re: 1/2ton running gear with IFS on a samurai
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2015, 05:57:25 AM »
It would likely require more than a few weekends to adapt an IFS system to a Samurai.   It would be much easier, and likely less costly in the long run to purchase a Tracker/Sidekick...or a RZR.  8) 

FYI, I run 32" MT tires with 2-1/2" backspacing, locked front and rear, and it is a very reliable setup.  It really doesn't require much maintenance either.  I rarely break axles or have wheel bearing problems. 

It sounds like your bearings are either having the grease washed out or some other problem.  Are you installing quality Japanese bearings & seals, and putting RTV on metal to metal surfaces?  Are you covering many deep water crossings?


Yes sorry I didn't answer sooner I'm very new to this form. I have even had a actual shop try to do it to see if I may be missing something but it all last about 6 months before I have to change everything out again and I only have 12k miles on the whole thing so i just can't find what is causing my problems.

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Re: 1/2ton running gear with IFS on a samurai
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2015, 07:48:37 AM »
Something is definitely not right.  I have gone 5+/50K miles years without servicing wheel bearings.
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