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Re: Power steering mods
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2012, 03:01:55 PM »
Well, I guess the general opinion is COOLER. I ordered new PS lines from SW Suzuki and when they come I'm going to try and adapt some type of cooler, maybe.  :laugh: I've been pretty successful with all the external cooling lines for my turbo, coolant in/ out of the turbo itself and the liquid after cooler lines too. I have never had an issue. Like stated above, careful routing and using a quality hose should help eliminate some risks. I have a bunch of trans cooler line I can use and a small motorcycle oil cooler sitting around looking for a home. Maybe, we'll see when the lines get here and how much time I have. I am going to use the plastic res, when I get some more time that is. For the time being I'll just wipe the bitch off.  ;D
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Re: Power steering mods
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2012, 07:17:29 PM »
The larger volume of the plastic resi along with a cooler would treat the pump nicely.
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Re: Power steering mods
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2012, 08:24:46 PM »


i made a mount for a cooler in front of the radiator.
routed lines thru the headlight can.
works well, and between the cooler and +volume of steering fluid- ...
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Re: Power steering mods
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2012, 03:39:32 AM »
Thanks for the pic rascott.  I like how you used rubber grommets to protect the hose going through the sheet metal. Very tidy.
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Re: Power steering mods
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2012, 05:14:21 PM »
I've been thinking a lot about the pros and cons of the cooler idea and it dawned on me: when is it needed the most? when your crawling and really turning them heavy tires going slow, right? What good would a cooler do if hardly any moving air is going to pass through it when you need it the most? OK, humor me with your opinions  >:D
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Re: Power steering mods
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2012, 06:08:57 PM »
So what you need is a fan on your cooler - actually if you mount the cooler infront of the radiator, the standard fan will pull some air through it.
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Re: Power steering mods
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2012, 06:50:58 PM »
The added mass of the cooler itself will conduct more heat out of the fluid.
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Re: Power steering mods
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2012, 08:59:03 PM »
I've been thinking a lot about the pros and cons of the cooler idea and it dawned on me: when is it needed the most? when your crawling and really turning them heavy tires going slow, right? What good would a cooler do if hardly any moving air is going to pass through it when you need it the most? OK, humor me with your opinions  >:D
i figure the cooler(radiator) would work best out front.
i've no idea how much difference it makes, as i have no experience without.
the headlight fits fine, easy penetration, easy hose routing.
all the rest of the hoses were from the donor.
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Re: Power steering mods
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2012, 03:37:59 AM »
The added mass of the cooler itself will conduct more heat out of the fluid.

That makes sense. OK, 1 point in favor.
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Re: Power steering mods
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2012, 03:42:23 AM »
So what you need is a fan on your cooler - actually if you mount the cooler infront of the radiator, the standard fan will pull some air through it.

I agree, the stock fan SHOULD help pull air through it, but I have an AC condenser in front of my rad, plus a big ass winch bumper in front of that. Still, it may help. No additional fans are going to be mounted. I have enough crap going on in my rig  :laugh: I just got finished removing a boatload of redundant junk.
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Re: Power steering mods
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2012, 03:44:49 AM »
I've been thinking a lot about the pros and cons of the cooler idea and it dawned on me: when is it needed the most? when your crawling and really turning them heavy tires going slow, right? What good would a cooler do if hardly any moving air is going to pass through it when you need it the most? OK, humor me with your opinions  >:D
i figure the cooler(radiator) would work best out front.
i've no idea how much difference it makes, as i have no experience without.
the headlight fits fine, easy penetration, easy hose routing.
all the rest of the hoses were from the donor.

No issues on the actual mounting, I'm sure I can find a place. I'm pretty good at routing hoses and wires so that shouldn't be an issue.
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Re: Power steering mods
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2012, 07:40:39 AM »
This is how mine is setup, large cooler from a Chev van for trans and smaller cooler was my aftermarket trans cooler but now is tied into my power steering setup. Both cool nicely and have given me zero issues even when working the rig hard.
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Re: Power steering mods
« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2012, 04:43:25 AM »
I don't have that kind or space in front of my rad because of the AC condenser being there . Anything that is going to be mounted as a cooler will have to go outside and in front of the grill, like I used to have my trans cooler mounted. That means making more brackets and having the cooler exposed. I removed my trans cooler when I found it actually was cooling TOO much and causing my trans to shift sluggishly. The stock bottom of the rad trans cooler seemed to be enough for a truck not actually towing anything. Still thinking about the cooler idea, when my new PS hoses and parts get here I'll make the decision then.
I did manage to get the little beast out for a bit yesterday and have now got about 175 miles on the new engine. Running and sounding great, boosting just fine. I'm finally begining to relax with it again. Gonna go out to the woods for a bit to survey storm damage today, and by the time I get back I'll be able to dump the break in oil and pour in some fresh.
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Re: Power steering mods
« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2012, 06:29:24 AM »
Great !

...now you can help me w/head gasket on the(just bought) 4dr!  ;D


ps- we still have no power!  >:(
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Re: Power steering mods
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2012, 02:10:45 PM »
Can I help through the mail  :laugh:  Did the woods today, updated my install for probably the final time in " pulling a 16V " in the Suzuki 4X4 forum.

I got a complete engine to build for you John. Want a nice new engine???  ;) ;D :laugh:
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