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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #75 on: October 22, 2012, 06:34:10 AM »
No, I haven't made the switch to wideband yet. The guys I get most of my turbo help from down here keep suggesting it too, mostly for tuning purposes. They have a shop that specializes in building race Hondas,( and some oddball others )  and roll cages and custom fab work. His personal Acura runs low 9's and has dynoed well over 900hp.  It's more a money and time thing, I don't have the money, and can't find the time if I did  :laugh:  They are more than willing to help with it if I did, they think the Turbo Tracker is very cool !  I'm lucky to know these guys, they have been invaluble in their help and advise. When I first built this thig, I sought advise from them and they thought the whole project was prettty interesting. They have also been personal friends for years and before the "Honda " thing they were into bikes, custom choppers, sport bikes and drag racers, my real background. Good to have friends with skills.

UPDATE:  I just figured the TV cable out. It only accuates the valve in the trans when you apply a good stomp at the pedal, and there is SUPPOSED to be a bit of cable extending out the back of the clip thing attached to the throttle. Hooked it up that way and it works fine. whew!
Now I'm off to pull the PS pump and try and figure out why it wont pump. I may have gotten a bit of debris in one of the lines and it's sticking a valve.


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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #76 on: October 24, 2012, 03:52:45 AM »
Damn. Had to pull the AC compressor back out last night to access the power steering pump again. Still no " pumping " from the pump. Tech support from the PS Pump supplier said probably a stuck valve on the suction side so next thing is to disconnect line and try and fish out the piston with a magnet. So close to being done I can taste it! This thing is being a real tease.
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #77 on: October 24, 2012, 09:23:01 AM »
No, I haven't made the switch to wideband yet.

MAKE THE SWITCH!  ...although I couldn't afford mine right away during the build... it was always on the to-do list. IMO wide-band monitor to turbo is like a gas/oil/temp monitor to a non-turbo.  

My first ever turbo when i was 22 was a 82 280zx and I could barely afford tires lol.  After the boost bug set (and a tax return lol) in at a max of 10psi, I swapped the T3 out for a T3/T4 and plumbed in a 7th injector with a electric pressure switch. 15psi with a 3.70 rear and auto was pretty damn fun back then!

I miss my z-car days!!

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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #78 on: October 24, 2012, 03:38:26 PM »
It ( wide band and Haltech Computer ) are both on my wish list. Gotta win the lotto first  :laugh:
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #79 on: October 27, 2012, 03:53:27 AM »
Can you believe this shit?  TWO power steering pumps neither made pressure, both from the same rebuilder. I got a replacement pump from the people who sold me the first one ( purchased online/ebay)  and it also had issues, no pressure. So I finally gave up and bought one locally at Auto Zone and viola, works fine. Whats even funnier is I ordered the pump from Auto Zone, came in the next day, and was from the SAME rebuilder as the first two !! WTF?? ???  Somebody at that shop must have been hung over the day the first two were rebuilt.
FINALLY this thing is bolted back together and I AM FINISHED in the engine compartment. Drove it last night for the first time with everything functioning and it is nice, smooth, quiet ( except for the exhaust which seems a bit louder ) plenty of power. It comes on boost at about 2200rpms with just the slightest load and power is substantially better down low. Can't wait to get a few more miles on it so I can really flog the engine and have some fun.  Worth the effort.  ;D 8)
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #80 on: October 27, 2012, 05:05:46 AM »
very good!
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #81 on: October 27, 2012, 06:26:10 AM »
Great to hear you have the beasty running!
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #82 on: October 27, 2012, 07:57:27 PM »
 Thanks guys, but not so fast.   So, finally got everything buttoned up and was gonna head out early this afternoon for a shakedown ride out in the Pines when moving down my driveway the battery lamp lights up. Now what,  ??? I pull backup to the garage and put a multi meter on the battery and only 12.4V running. Check the alternator leads and nothing, thing is dead. This is the NEW replacement for my GM Delco Remy I got from Auto Zone just last week with a total of about 15 miles /30 minutes running time on it. These re-manufactured parts are really a crap shoot. First the PS pumps and now this. My last one was as reliable as a hammer, noisy but reliable.  At least I had the install fresh in my memory so I had it out and back at AZ in about a half hour. I made them test the replacement before I brought it home. Installed the replacement and took it out for it's maiden woods ride with the new engine and she ran flawlessly. Finally! YEAH  ;D Now got to clean up the shop tomorrow, get a couple of pics and prepare for the big storm coming. I sure hope this is the end of replacing replacement parts for a while. Damn, I forgot, my PS res is weeping along the welded seam. I'm looking for a bigger one to replace it,  But that's a whole new project. For later.
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #83 on: October 28, 2012, 05:06:05 AM »
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changing out working ps pump and working alternator for re-man = Not So Good?

That'll teach you to leave well enough alone!   ;)
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #84 on: October 28, 2012, 06:10:27 AM »
So-

changing out working ps pump and working alternator for re-man = Not So Good?

That'll teach you to leave well enough alone!   ;)
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The old ps pump was leaking out of front and back, alt was whining but working. Should have kept them both  :laugh:
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #85 on: October 28, 2012, 06:56:18 AM »
Good to hear that you got it going 8) I've been having the same luck with reman parts lately and even bought a new carb only to find it full of dirt >:(  What ever happened to quality?
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #86 on: October 28, 2012, 08:00:59 AM »
What ever happened to quality?

Corporate America outsourced it all!

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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #87 on: October 28, 2012, 09:17:10 AM »
I have never had much luck with AutoZone remans,,,,I dont think they are even checked out after being remand, LOL.

 I recently had issues with a remand calipers piston cocking in the bore, we measured the bore and then the piston and they were both well out of spec and the bore was not even close to being round. Obviously hand honed!   
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #88 on: October 29, 2012, 05:13:29 AM »
American pride and quality are going downhill fast. I guess it's up to us to bring it back. My theory is the constant push for more worker productivity is what causes things like this remanufactured parts quality issue. Push people hard enough and failures are bound to happen, due to lack of attention to detail, overwork and just plain resentment of management. Just my 2 cents.

Aside from the problems with the alt and ps pump, everything now seems to be working fine. I'm still cautious about the quality of those aftermarket pistons but they seem quiet and are keeping the combustibles and oil where they should be. Only putting a bunch of miles on it will tell for sure. I'll be taking some pics later today ( off work due to the storm ) and posting up. Thanks everyone for your help, suggestions and support.  I'm also going to be starting a new thread on some power steering mods I want to make.
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Re: Pulling a 16V from a Tracker
« Reply #89 on: November 04, 2012, 01:46:09 PM »
Finally got out to the Pine Barrens to give it a good run and the little beast runs great. It's seems to be getting a bit better fuel economy too. Got to the 340 mile mark today and when I got home I dumped the break in oil ( straight 30 wt non detergent ) and refilled with Castrol 10/40 and a bit of Lucas, new filter of course. Not much on the drain plug magnet, small bit of stuff but nothing of concern and the old oil looked good too. Here's a couple of pics of the cleaned up engine compartment:

I was able to remove my scavenge pump with all it's related hoses and such and the oil control needle valve and guage going to to the turbo in favor of a simple inline restrictor, cleaned up the intake breathers and lost another bunch of hose and fittings there too. Rerouted some coolant hoses for the turbo and heat shielded some others. Moved my alc/h2o injection pump from it's position mounted where the charcol canister used to be to the pocket directly behind the pass side headlight. Access to the alt and belt adjustment are now much easier as is access to under the intake manifold.
 Somehow, after installation this engine's fan sits out from the shroud about an inch compared to the old one. I can't seem to find where the difference is, but it makes getting a socket wrench on the crank bolt a real bitch. The engine mounts are slotted and I think I may have bolted it down in it's furthest back position. I've decided I'm just going to cut a notch in the bottom of the shroud for access, to make turning the engine over for valve adjustment and such easier.  
 Other than that one small issue and waiting for my power steering res parts to arrive she's pretty much buttoned up and ready to have the skid plates bolted back on. Finally.  ;D
A couple of pics of the Carranza monument out in the Pine Barrens. In 1928 a Mexican aviator crashed his plane on this spot while making a good will tour of America. The children of his home village in south Central Mexico paid for and gathered this stone and local stone masons cut the individual pieces , then shipped it to this spot to be erected in his honor. It has some cool Mayan influence in it's design.
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