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Differential Questions
« on: May 03, 2004, 01:24:13 PM »
Since I've broken 2 aluminum frontends on my Tracker, I've decided to go GV steel (when I get some money).

First question: Can I use the 3rd member from the GV? Is it steel, like the housing (V6, 5spd) or aluminum? Would I be better off using an XL-7 3rd member? If I do use an XL-7 3rd member, will I have to make a custom mount?

Second question: What are these parts and what do they do?
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Re: Differential Questions
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2004, 01:34:50 PM »
1. adjusting spanner nut for setting backlash
2. retainer for spanner nut
3. carrier bearing cap

On a side note post pics where these things break. I have a couple on the shelf I'd like to "build up". Thanks in advance.
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Re: Differential Questions
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2004, 01:40:19 PM »
Thanks for explaing what those parts were :)

Passenger Side mount (because there's only 3 bolts  >:():


And the third member mount. Third member is the one that goes first, I think. Or at least it was in my case(s) of using a bit too much throttle in reverse in 4WD.
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Re: Differential Questions
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2004, 02:25:54 PM »
Hit me with a pic of the broken third member if you have one. That's what I have left over from my 5.125 to Sami swap. I want to beef up the area with maybe gussets or build it up with material with the t.i.g.
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Re: Differential Questions
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2004, 02:49:49 PM »


It breaks in reverse, since there's no support when it twists in that direction. To fix this, people use a strap bolted to the crossmember, clamping over the third member to keep it from rotating in reverse and breaking/kicking up. There's an article in the archives about it, too.
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Re: Differential Questions
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2004, 04:42:18 PM »
Don't forget here
                                                                               
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Re: Differential Questions
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2004, 04:52:37 PM »
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Don't forget here
                                                                               

Holy shit! :o

How'd you do that?
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Re: Differential Questions
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2004, 10:24:45 PM »
This is the XL-7 3rd. Almost the same as the GV but the mount.


You will need one of these mounts (factory XL-7)


My frame was tweeked, so I had to drill new mount holes



that pic is the bottom of the cross member.

Check out http://www.zukiworld.com/month_110103/feature_zigsbeef.htm for more info ;)

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Re: Differential Questions
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2004, 12:59:27 AM »
So are both the GV (V6-5spd) and XL-7 third members both made of steel? If so, would it be better to just get an entire GV differential assembly from the junkyard and just put my 5.12's in it?
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Re: Differential Questions
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2004, 04:34:17 AM »
I'm thinking that the diff is exactly the same.  Just the carrier is stronger, and yes, it's steel.  The GV V6/Manual carrier is eye-dentical to the Sidekick carrier except for the hole you'll have to plug, where the air-actuator for the "shit-on-the-fly" passes through.

And for my part, instead of trying to fab up a "snout clamp" XL-7 style, I think I'll just refrain from dumping the clutch in reverse, which is what I did to break my aluminum carrier.
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Re: Differential Questions
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2004, 09:18:21 AM »
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And for my part, instead of trying to fab up a "snout clamp" XL-7 style, I think I'll just refrain from dumping the clutch in reverse, which is what I did to break my aluminum carrier.


You'll still brake it...

Do it right and put a strap on it.  You wont regret it.  You might if you don't
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Re: Differential Questions
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2004, 01:33:09 PM »
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You'll still brake it...

Do it right and put a strap on it.  You wont regret it.  You might if you don't

heh, hard reverse is how I broke both mine... I guess I'm still too stupid to learn fast...

The good thing about the steel 3rd member is that it can be welded back together if it were to break :)


Another question: Would it strengthen the mounts on the diff housing if I were to weld the mounts right to the housing (kinda like the Anvil is)?
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Re: Differential Questions
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2004, 04:03:59 PM »
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Holy shit! :o

How'd you do that?


I did it a the unofficail Zukifest last summer at Tillamook State Forest  (a.k.a. Brownscamp, real first time out) I thought I would try some rockCrawling (leaving the area where  Eric and some where Wheelin) and tried to crawl over a rock slowly (darn stock gears) and "CRACK, BANG, BOOM" there it went. I Laughed, (even Eric managed to break something) cause right B-4 it happened, a fellow Zook told me it would break (soon) and how to fix it and even lived in my nieghborhood and he even helped me fix it. ;D


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Re: Differential Questions
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2004, 07:48:56 AM »
What is the Suzuki model that is sold as the Chevy Tracker? What material is the front diff of that made out of? Steel or Aluminum?
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