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2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara

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Re: 2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara
« Reply #60 on: February 17, 2005, 09:41:16 PM »
Yeah bump wondering too
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Re: 2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara
« Reply #61 on: February 17, 2005, 09:42:31 PM »
Another question

Id the vavle adjustments on the 2.5 mechanical or hydrlic lifters??

any pics of the vavle train and pistons.
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Re: 2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara
« Reply #62 on: February 17, 2005, 11:38:20 PM »
Sorry guys.  Been playing phone tag with the seller of the 2.7 to see if he has the MAF that I need to complete the project.  He thinks that its still attached to the wrecked XL-7, but that was two days ago and I haven't been able to catch him since.

I'm trying to avoid paying $200 for one from the junk yard which is the best alternative I have right now.  Free is better!

JDM, I didn't pull the valve covers off the 2.5 as it looks like the whole intake has to come off first.
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Re: 2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara
« Reply #63 on: February 18, 2005, 02:57:00 AM »
Just spoke to the seller and he does indeed have the MAF and connecting pipe.  He's sending it to me today or tomorrow, so I should be up and running early next week.  Ended up paying $60 w/ shipping, but I don't think I could have done better elsewhere, plus this way I know I got the correct part.
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Re: 2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara
« Reply #64 on: February 18, 2005, 11:16:08 AM »
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Is the vavle adjustments on the 2.5 mechanical or hydrlic lifters??


The 1.8 and up are hydrolic. ;)
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Re: 2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara
« Reply #65 on: February 18, 2005, 02:54:50 PM »
Thanks
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Re: 2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara
« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2005, 01:48:27 AM »
I'm still waiting for the MAF to show up.  In the meantime, I went ahead and re-installed the harness, including running 3 wires for the MAF.  You can see the 2.5 connector within the yellow rectangle.  I'll have to replace it with the 2.7 since they are different, but this way I'm preserving the proper colors on the wires.  Battery and strut tower brace has also been reinstalled.  All fluids have been added as well.



Hirez

And here is an inside shot showing the various connectors that will connect to the ECM.  The 3 loose wires are for the MAF sensor.



Hirez

And finally a shot of the 2.5 and 2.7 computers.  The nice one in the metal case is the 2.5.  They went all plastic by 2002 it seems.



Hirez
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Re: 2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara
« Reply #67 on: February 21, 2005, 12:22:35 PM »
So close,
Yet,
so far ;)
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Re: 2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara
« Reply #68 on: February 22, 2005, 03:58:21 AM »
You got that right hotrod!

Turns out the seller only has the MAF itself and not the pipe/resonator that goes with it.  Furthermore, his filter housing was busted from the accident, so that's not available either.

Here is a shot of the 2000 2.5 intake pieces:



And a shot of the 2002 2.7 intake pieces:



Notice how the 2.7 housing is designed to accept the MAF?  In other words, my 2.5 housing isn't going to work, even if I drop the $60 for the 2.7 pipe and resonator.  And I definately don't want to spend $240 for a new 2.7 filter housing.

Having just the 2.7 MAF, is there a K&N kit (or equivalent) available that will take care of the rest for less than the $300 bucks the 2.7 OEM parts will cost?  I don't see anything according to the K&N application guide other than an OEM filter replacement.

I see some of you guys are running conical filters in place of the OEM stuff, but I don't think I've seen pics of a 2.7 setup incorporating the MAF and intake air temp sensor.

I see plenty of cold-air intake systems for the 2.0 and below engines, but nothing for the 2.5 or 2.7.  Does nobody make such a kit?  It seems like a real bummer to have to spend $300 for the OEM pieces when I'm sure an aftermarket kit would come in at less than that...
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Re: 2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara
« Reply #69 on: February 22, 2005, 04:36:00 AM »
I stand corrected, I just found a pic of 95XL7's setup:



So '95, what filter is that (part #) and are you using the 2.5 or 2.7 tube pieces with that?

Maybe I can make things work with the 2.5 pieces I have on hand...  Also, did you insert the air temp probe in there somewhere?
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Re: 2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara
« Reply #70 on: February 22, 2005, 11:54:04 AM »
I have a XL7 airbox that came with my motor,do you want it?
You pay the shipping and it's yours.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2005, 10:20:27 PM by 95xl7 »
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Re: 2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara
« Reply #71 on: February 22, 2005, 11:41:59 PM »
Sounds great '95!  I just sent you a note.

I think the wife would prefer a little less noise that what an open intake will sound like.  ;D
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Re: 2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara
« Reply #72 on: February 25, 2005, 02:04:58 PM »
The MAF showed up today, so I went ahead and made a *very* temporary connection to the engine intake as follows:



Next I connected the ECU, also in a *very* temporary fashion.  I got a couple of wires left over that come from the "A/C amplifier" on the 2000 which apparenly isn't used on 2002 models, so I'll have to do some more reseach on that.  



And the moment of truth:

Cranking the engine!

As you can see, the engine fired right up.  ;D

The SES light came on, but that doesn't really suprise me.  Perhaps once I get the airbox from 95XL7 and mount the MAF and IAT sensor properly it will clear.  If not, I'll need to hook up my Autotap to see what code is being set and go from there.  At least the oil pressure light isn't comming on! ;)

The tach isn't working yet either, which surprises me, but I'll double check my work to see what's up with that.
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Re: 2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara
« Reply #73 on: February 25, 2005, 04:01:08 PM »
Purrrrrrrrrrs like a kitten ;D
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Re: 2.5 to 2.7 swap in 2000 Grand Vitara
« Reply #74 on: February 25, 2005, 11:43:36 PM »
First GEN-2.5L 155hp 160lb.-ft. torque.
               2.7L 183hp 180lb.-ft. torque.
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The difference   28hp    20lb.-ft. torque.
Wow, I think you just MIGHT feel the upgrade ;).
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