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Offline aviation officer

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« on: July 28, 2011, 01:36:53 PM »
Im going to replace the clutch on my 91 sidekick 8 valve. i was going to buy a 16 valve flywheel and get the 16 valve clutch. i wanted to know if the 16 valve flywheel will go on an 8 valve engine and if the flywheel will fit in the bell housing?
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Re: flywheels
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2011, 08:14:37 PM »
Yes it will work, I put an 8V flex plate onto a 16V crank
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Re: flywheels
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2011, 11:44:55 PM »
You shouldn't need to replace the flywheel, I believe the clutch will just swap on.
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Re: flywheels
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2011, 11:30:00 AM »
8V and 16V flywheels are identical.  You can put the larger 8.5" diameter "16v" clutch on an 8V flywheel.
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Re: flywheels
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2011, 08:23:59 PM »
thanks guys. that helps alot and saves me some money.
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Re: flywheels
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2011, 07:27:28 AM »
is there an advantage using a 16v clutch on an 8v.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2011, 09:08:16 PM »
They are the same.  It's 2-door vs 4-door where you see the difference.
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Re: flywheels
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2011, 09:10:05 PM »
Quote from: aviation officer on July 31, 2011, 07:27:28 AM
is there an advantage using a 16v clutch on an 8v.

You get a bigger clutch with more holding power.  Nothing wrong with that.
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 04:55:49 PM »
The way I see it it has more square inches of area so more square inches = less pounds per square inch of holding power from the same pressure plate.
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Re: flywheels
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2011, 05:00:27 PM »
Quote from: mrfuelish on August 01, 2011, 04:55:49 PM
The way I see it it has more square inches of area so more square inches = less pounds per square inch of holding power from the same pressure plate.

I guess that is where you are wrong.
The added friction area outweighs your ppsi of holding power theory.

If your theory was correct, then smaller brake pads would be better than larger ones.
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Re: flywheels
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2011, 05:16:27 PM »
More surface area requires less pressure to do the required amount of work,
the same principals work in Hydraulics too, a cylinder with twice the diameter
will exert 4 times as much force with the same pressure input, not twice as much
as most people would think
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Re: flywheels
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2011, 05:17:18 PM »
is a 4 door flywheel and clutch bigger than the 2 door flywheel and clutch
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2011, 05:24:47 PM »
I don't think the Hydraulics theory Is the same thing, I think compairing it to an elephants foot in mud verses a humans foot, the elephant would float on the mud but the human would hit the dirt at the bottom and have more solid ground to push off from. Lol.
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Re: flywheels
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2011, 07:38:38 PM »
Quote from: aviation officer on August 01, 2011, 05:17:18 PM
is a 4 door flywheel and clutch bigger than the 2 door flywheel and clutch


Have you not been paying attention? :P
All 1.6 flywheels are the same...no matter if they came from an 8v, 16v, 2 door or 4 door.
All 1.6 8Vs had a 7.9" diameter clutch.
All 1.6 16Vs had an 8.5" diameter clutch.
So you can use either a 7.9" or an 8.5" diameter clutch on any 1.6 flywheel.
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