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Pinion Gear Ratio
« on: April 22, 2011, 05:59:52 AM »
Is there a diff pinion gear set available in a 4.3 ratio.  seems like 4.57 and 5.38 are the norm.  But I'm not going crazy with the tires (29-30") and would like to keep close to the stock ratios.  Anyone know where I can find a set??

Thanks a lot.

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Offline fordguy79

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Re: Pinion Gear Ratio
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2011, 08:42:19 AM »
some trackers came with a 4.30 some of the ppl on here can tell you the year to look for
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Re: Pinion Gear Ratio
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2011, 02:13:53 PM »
more info needed here...

the "diff pinion" is not a set, its one part of a ring and pinion set. what are you trying to do? it takes one pinion and one ring gear (matched) to create a ratio.and both have to be changed to raise (numerically lower) or lower (numerically higher) your final drive "differential" ratio.

what; year,model (2/4 door), what transmission?

do you know your current ratio?

what size are your current tires?

 
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Re: Pinion Gear Ratio
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2011, 06:34:14 AM »
What I'm, trying to do is go to ~30" tire from 26" tires and keep my gearing in line with stock.  Right now by diffs are 3.727.  With ~30" 4.3 would be really close.  I have a 94 stock samurai 5 spd.

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Re: Pinion Gear Ratio
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2011, 08:16:10 AM »
Trackick 4.30 front gears fit in samurai front and rear thirds.
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Re: Pinion Gear Ratio
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2011, 06:43:49 PM »
What you need is to find a used set if you can out of a 2 door automatic Sidekick or Tracker. Most of them wre 4.30 ratio.
HIT IT !!

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Offline Skyhiranger

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Re: Pinion Gear Ratio
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2011, 05:21:11 PM »
What you need is to find a used set if you can out of a 2 door automatic Sidekick or Tracker. Most of them wre 4.30 ratio.

No.  Most 2 door auto trackicks have 4.62 gears.
4.30s are found in 2 door trackicks with the auto and the 16V engine.
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Re: Pinion Gear Ratio
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2011, 06:29:53 PM »
hope this will help :)

89-98 Tracker/Sidekick Differential Gear Ratios

89     2dr 1.3L carb 5speed man. 5.625
89-95 2dr 1,6L TBI 5speed man. 5.125
89-95 2dr 1,6L TBI 3speed auto. 4.625
91      4dr 1.6L TBI 3speed auto. 4.625
91      4dr 1.6L TBI 5speed man. 5.375
92-98 4dr 1.6L MPFI 5speed man. 5.125
92-98 4dr 1.6L MPFI 3speed auto. 4.30
92-98 4dr 1.6L MPFI 4speed auto. 5.125
94-98 2dr 1.6L MPFI 5speed man. 5.125
94-98 2dr 1.6L MPFI 3speed auto. 4.30
94-98 2dr 1.6L MPFI 4speed auto. 5.125
96-98 X90 1.6L MPFI auto or man. 4.625

4.625 gears have an 8/37 tooth count
4.30 gears have an 10/43 tooth count
5.125 gears have an 8/41 tooth count
5.375 gears have an 8/43 tooth count
5.625 gears have an 8/45 tooth count
 

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Re: Pinion Gear Ratio
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2011, 06:45:08 PM »
hope this will help :)

89-98 Tracker/Sidekick Differential Gear Ratios

89     2dr 1.3L carb 5speed man. 5.625
89-95 2dr 1,6L TBI 5speed man. 5.125
89-95 2dr 1,6L TBI 3speed auto. 4.625
91      4dr 1.6L TBI 3speed auto. 4.625
91      4dr 1.6L TBI 5speed man. 5.375
92-98 4dr 1.6L MPFI 5speed man. 5.125
92-98 4dr 1.6L MPFI 3speed auto. 4.30
92-98 4dr 1.6L MPFI 4speed auto. 5.125
94-98 2dr 1.6L MPFI 5speed man. 5.125
94-98 2dr 1.6L MPFI 3speed auto. 4.30
94-98 2dr 1.6L MPFI 4speed auto. 5.125
96-98 X90 1.6L MPFI auto or man. 4.625

4.625 gears have an 8/37 tooth count
4.30 gears have an 10/43 tooth count
5.125 gears have an 8/41 tooth count
5.375 gears have an 8/43 tooth count
5.625 gears have an 8/45 tooth count

That is a list I made and posted.  There have been a couple of revisions since that list was posted.  It is still all correct, I just had a couple of setups in that list that were never offered.
You can take the following off the list...
92-98 4dr 1.6L MPFI 3speed auto. 4.30
94-98 2dr 1.6L MPFI 4speed auto. 5.125


And a FYI, for those of you that don't know...
TBI=8V
MPFI=16V
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Re: Pinion Gear Ratio
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2011, 05:54:37 AM »

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Re: Pinion Gear Ratio
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2011, 12:42:20 PM »
What you need is to find a used set if you can out of a 2 door automatic Sidekick or Tracker. Most of them wre 4.30 ratio.

No.  Most 2 door auto trackicks have 4.62 gears.
4.30s are found in 2 door trackicks with the auto and the 16V engine.
Read my reply, it says auto.
HIT IT !!

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Offline Skyhiranger

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Re: Pinion Gear Ratio
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2011, 02:32:10 PM »
What you need is to find a used set if you can out of a 2 door automatic Sidekick or Tracker. Most of them wre 4.30 ratio.

No.  Most 2 door auto trackicks have 4.62 gears.
4.30s are found in 2 door trackicks with the auto and the 16V engine.
Read my reply, it says auto.

I know it says auto.  What I was saying "no" about, was your statement of "most of them wre 4.30 ratio".  Most auto 2 door trackicks are NOT 4.30 ratio....most are 4.62.
Tracker and Sidekick parts for sale.....PM me with your wants/needs.

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Offline ASI H8

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Re: Pinion Gear Ratio
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2011, 06:27:33 AM »
What we have here is failure to communicate. :laugh:

Segermech, 
Pros to changing Tcase gears. 
1. Versatility - I mean you will get a wider range of ratios to work with
2. High side of the gear sets are lower than stock thus you will still be able to run down the road w/out issues on 30" tires.  Gear sets to consider.  4.16, 4.91 or 5.14.  Each of the gearsets
3. Low side of the gear set is great on trails.
Use this to compare
http://www.lepayne.com/gears.html
I realize it is set for a 1986-1990 Samurais but I don't think there is much that changed from the transmission back.

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Re: Pinion Gear Ratio
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2011, 02:54:52 PM »
Get a 4:1 t-case or gear set.  Much better mod for a mild lift.  I have run such a setup with 30" tires for 10+ years.  No problems whatsoever.
35 years of Samurai ownership, and I still have my very first one. :)

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Re: Pinion Gear Ratio
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2011, 07:24:29 AM »
What you need is to find a used set if you can out of a 2 door automatic Sidekick or Tracker. Most of them wre 4.30 ratio.

No.  Most 2 door auto trackicks have 4.62 gears.
4.30s are found in 2 door trackicks with the auto and the 16V engine.
Read my reply, it says auto.

I know it says auto.  What I was saying "no" about, was your statement of "most of them wre 4.30 ratio".  Most auto 2 door trackicks are NOT 4.30 ratio....most are 4.62.
I guess this is just my assumtion that most people wouldn't choose an 8vlv over a16vlv, and in that I have only messed with 3 speed GM autos by choice. All of the Trackicks with that combo have 4.30s. And I guess I should state that is based on the erea I live in (East coast)
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