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93 Suzuki Swift 1.3L G13B motor in a sami.
« on: January 26, 2011, 11:19:19 PM »
I cant get my sami through emissions, so i thought I might try a fresher motor. It is supposed to be a good motor, but I can turn the fly wheel over with the plugs in. i figured the motor should have to much compression to turn over by hand. any way, the motor is all complete. it came from a junk yard, so it is all there, but the wire harness, hoses and anything else coming off the motor were cut. I have a sami intake that I am thinking should work. I also have a bad 1.6 8 valve motor that I am thinking i can use the dissy housing, dissy, coolant pipe coming off the block, and what ever else I might need. My big question is how do the motors differ from each other and is there anything i am over looking? also, should I run the swift TBI, sami stock carb, or Weber. I also need to get through emissions too.
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Re: 93 Suzuki Swift 1.3L G13B motor in a sami.
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2011, 12:21:18 AM »
Any chance you can check the compression on the motor I can turn my motor too but it is not super easy, how about motor mounts as far as I know the Swift engine is a sideways mounted engine for the front wheel drive, and just going by the Petroworks' website a Weber Carb is not for use with emission controlled rigs (I have a friend that had one, but we knew a guy that used to "help" us when it came time to pass emissions), personally I'd try the TBI.
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Re: 93 Suzuki Swift 1.3L G13B motor in a sami.
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2011, 08:50:38 AM »
First - I think you need to specify exactly which motor you're getting - the term "G13B" is typically used to refer to the 16v, DOHC, multi-point injection engine out of the GTi (incorrectly, by the way), the 8V SOHC with throttle body imjection is generally referred to as the G13BA.

The G13BA is essentially the same motor as used in the Samurai and you can easily swap the Samurai bit & pieces over - mount wise, it should bolt right up.

If you don't have the wiring harness and the ECU, it might be an idea to go with the stock carb from the Sami.
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Re: 93 Suzuki Swift 1.3L G13B motor in a sami.
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2011, 09:06:11 AM »
the motor didnt come with a starter and i think the motor has to be bolted to the transmission for the starter to turn the engine over, so I cant do a compression check until I have everything installed and have spent all the time putting it in there wondering if it will work. it is a 93 suzuki swift 1.3 4cylinder 8 valve and the block number is G13B
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Re: 93 Suzuki Swift 1.3L G13B motor in a sami.
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2011, 10:45:29 AM »
it is a 93 suzuki swift 1.3 4cylinder 8 valve and the block number is G13B

Are you referring to the raised casting lettering at the flywheel end?  If so, they all have it, G13B (16v DOHC), G13BA (8v SOHC), G13BB (16v SOHC), and I believe there's a G13K (16v DOHC) - they actually all use the same block.

But - no matter - the 8 valve Swift engine (which is what you have) is essentially the same as a Samurai engine, but with a different flywheel, head, intake & exhaust and accessories - you should be able to swap the bits from the old engine across and bolt in to the Sami and go.
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Re: 93 Suzuki Swift 1.3L G13B motor in a sami.
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2011, 05:56:21 PM »
it is a 93 suzuki swift 1.3 4cylinder 8 valve and the block number is G13B

Are you referring to the raised casting lettering at the flywheel end?  If so, they all have it, G13B (16v DOHC), G13BA (8v SOHC), G13BB (16v SOHC), and I believe there's a G13K (16v DOHC) - they actually all use the same block.

But - no matter - the 8 valve Swift engine (which is what you have) is essentially the same as a Samurai engine, but with a different flywheel, head, intake & exhaust and accessories - you should be able to swap the bits from the old engine across and bolt in to the Sami and go.
yah, the casting on the back of the motor just above the serial number say G13B. I know it is the 8 valve, so maybe the top end has been changed to and 8 valve if you say the G13B is a 16 valve. If I heard you right you said the head was differnt, but it looks the same. even has the fuel pump location on it. will the sami header and intake fit on the swift motor?
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Re: 93 Suzuki Swift 1.3L G13B motor in a sami.
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2011, 08:00:47 PM »
the engine might have skipped a tooth on the timing belt and the valves are not closing all the way at tdc... bring cylinder to tdc and pressurize the cylinder if you can hear air out of the exhaust or intake, check valve timing. also same thing for finding a burnt valve.


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Re: 93 Suzuki Swift 1.3L G13B motor in a sami.
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2011, 08:11:53 PM »
dont know the condition of the motor. got it from a wrecker guy. I thinkit has been sitting for a while, so it could be a stuck valve or anything wrong with it. it also came with a A/C compressor. can the compressor be used for on board air?
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Re: 93 Suzuki Swift 1.3L G13B motor in a sami.
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2011, 10:00:05 PM »
yes you do have to do a few things to it there are articles online explaining how to do on board air
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Re: 93 Suzuki Swift 1.3L G13B motor in a sami.
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2011, 07:54:58 AM »
yah, the casting on the back of the motor just above the serial number say G13B. I know it is the 8 valve, so maybe the top end has been changed to and 8 valve if you say the G13B is a 16 valve. If I heard you right you said the head was differnt, but it looks the same. even has the fuel pump location on it. will the sami header and intake fit on the swift motor?

The blocks are all the same - if you check the engine number it will probably show a number like G13LL-NNNNNN where L is a letter and N are numbers - this is where I think the confusion arises, I have blocks from both the 8vSOHC & 16vDOHC which start G13B, to add to the confusion Suzuki used different numbering schemes for different markets - in the US the letters (LL) can be used to determine the engine's year of manufacturer, but my two "G13B" blocks are from cars manufactured four years apart.

I'm not 100% certain on the heads - if they are different, the difference will be in the distributor mounting area - yes - as far as I know the sami header & intake will fit the swift motor as long as it is an 8v.
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Re: 93 Suzuki Swift 1.3L G13B motor in a sami.
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2011, 09:42:15 PM »
I keep looking at the two motors and I think the sami head is the same as the swift. my only big question is if the sami dissy and housing just bolt up to the swift head or I have to change cams or something for gearing and what not. does anyone have any info for on board air?
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Re: 93 Suzuki Swift 1.3L G13B motor in a sami.
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2011, 05:18:26 AM »
Heads are the same - I checked the part numbers and they match (sorry about the earlier mix-up) cams are different, I suspect the cam profile is different and the Swift cam does not have the drive gear needed for the right angle distributor drive used on the Samurai.

On board air - just google it.

Here's a Samurai specific conversion.
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Re: 93 Suzuki Swift 1.3L G13B motor in a sami.
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2011, 10:16:16 AM »
Heads are the same - I checked the part numbers and they match (sorry about the earlier mix-up) cams are different, I suspect the cam profile is different and the Swift cam does not have the drive gear needed for the right angle distributor drive used on the Samurai.

On board air - just google it.

Here's a Samurai specific conversion.

I didnt get the link, but I looked at some articles on it and it is easy. I just need to put a pre oiler before the pump and a oil/water collector after the pump I guess. I just need to figure out if my a/c pump is any good. do they go bad sitting with the system open? I was thinking I might need to change cams for that reason. when I got my sami it came with two extra heads, but I think they might be 1.6 8 valve heads. is a 1.6 cam the same as a 1.3?
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Re: 93 Suzuki Swift 1.3L G13B motor in a sami.
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2011, 11:39:14 AM »
The first word IS the link - go back and click where it says "here" - I don't think the a/c compressor will fail if it's left open (mind you I'm no expert), - I think the problem is moisture in the a/c system - if there is moisture it freezes and block the system, so leaving the system open allows moisture in and that adds to the work of getting the system functional again.

Hook up 12V between the clutch coil connector and the compressor body and try to turn the pulley - if you can trun the compressor it'll probably be fine for use with on board air.

With regard the 1.6 head & cam - I have been told they can be interchanged with the 1.3 - but have no personal experience.
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