Jluck, I hear you on the patience thing when it comes to build ups. I simply see ALOT of stuff that would be good, IF the people had taken the time/effort/patience to do it well. On the roadtrip, thing, well COME ON OVER. I'd love to show you guys how we wheel over here in the land of mud, rocks, and sand. Then again, WE might get to met ya'll one day next year, since we are looking at moving out west/south, around the 'zona area most likely.