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Re: big engine decision
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2010, 05:43:29 PM »
Hahaha, boosted zukis making a mess in the mud ;)
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Re: big engine decision
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2010, 12:48:21 AM »
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I like turbos, but a v6 sounds soooo much more fortified of an engine.

Well, I dunno, the rocket blast sound of a turbo exhaust can be pretty impressive too.

The one thing I noticed is the 1.6 has a longer stroke than the V6, and I wondered if
that contributes to a better torque under boost, I know Mike Hagen wanted to see
Eric and I do a drag race just to see who had more grunt, the outcome was undecided
as to who would be in front, he thought the power was that close.

On the down side, a turbo motor will most likely not run as many miles as a V6, just
from the fact that in a V6 you spread around the engine wear to more parts under
less stress that the equivalent power in a 4 cylinder

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As far as cost of the headers, I don't know, seems like they were around $350-400
last time I got a cost together, and I think that was for stainless steel, regular steel
is much cheeper

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Re: big engine decision
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2010, 09:29:57 AM »
Quote from: wildgoody on December 09, 2010, 12:48:21 AM
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I like turbos, but a v6 sounds soooo much more fortified of an engine.

Well, I dunno, the rocket blast sound of a turbo exhaust can be pretty impressive too.

The one thing I noticed is the 1.6 has a longer stroke than the V6, and I wondered if
that contributes to a better torque under boost, I know Mike Hagen wanted to see
Eric and I do a drag race just to see who had more grunt, the outcome was undecided
as to who would be in front, he thought the power was that close.

On the down side, a turbo motor will most likely not run as many miles as a V6, just
from the fact that in a V6 you spread around the engine wear to more parts under
less stress that the equivalent power in a 4 cylinder

Wild

As far as cost of the headers, I don't know, seems like they were around $350-400
last time I got a cost together, and I think that was for stainless steel, regular steel
is much cheeper

Wild

What?  I don't recall racing...

I would though; how about first to 100mph?

:)

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Re: big engine decision
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2010, 01:40:48 PM »
Hahaha, us boys and our.....zuks, lol. That's not bad for exhaust, what turbo do you use? How well would it work on an obd 2 setup? Mine is a 97 so computers are annoying
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Re: big engine decision
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2010, 11:09:10 PM »
The turbo that I had last was from a mid 80s Subaru 1.8L
turbo wagon, those are non intercooled and boost was
set at about 7PSI, pretty good for a stock set of pistons

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Re: big engine decision
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2010, 11:13:23 PM »
Quote from: ebewley on December 09, 2010, 09:29:57 AM

 

 
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What?  I don't recall racing...

I would though; how about first to 100mph?

:)

-Eric

Well Eric, go run a 1/4 mile, I hit 93 MPH lets see what the V6 does,
That should settle the match  ;)
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Re: big engine decision
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2010, 02:21:49 AM »
Can I see pics under your hood and build up if you have some? I grew up a honda kid so I know them snails are awesome and can do a lot with minimal boost
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Re: big engine decision
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2010, 04:33:59 AM »
Gotta pretty complete write up on doing a 16V turbo in the " How To " forum, under " how to turbocharge a 16v. " Lots of pictures and detailed info. I  am also now running alcohol/water injection with my turbo and it makes great power even lower in the rev range with an adjustable boost controller. Much easier and cheaper than the v6 swap, unless your able to do the swap yourself. The whole thing, if your a decent wrench and can bolt it up and do a bit of welding can be done for under 2k, and I mean WELL done. Very reliable and more power everywhere, decent fuel milage too, average 20+ running all the trail gear and 32X11.50"s.
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Re: big engine decision
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2010, 06:11:10 PM »
Someone feel like building me a setup for turbo? Bentparts- what nissan v6 did you get injectors out of? I can run those stock and have a few more ponies can't I? Have you put in any cams to see if it helps at all?
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Re: big engine decision
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2010, 05:31:08 AM »
bigger injectors without more air is not going to help, never changed cams. Unless it's a pretty radical cam, all it would do is change where the power is. I wanted my motor to run like a good stock motor when not on boost. That's why I left the pistons stock ( good compression and power off boost) and cam alone. Maybe a cam for a bit more low end would be nice though.
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Re: big engine decision
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2010, 09:05:11 AM »
Well injectors with cam, intake and exhaust would be a good combo right? Man, someone needs to start pumping out turbo kits for these bad boys, all of us want them and bad, lol
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Re: big engine decision
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2010, 09:30:21 PM »
I'm about to start building 16V turbo headers, I was checking to see what they
would cost to assemble, the only problem I have is the turbo flange, and what
bolt pattern it should be, what turbocharger is most common to put on these
engines?

Headers would be made of stainless steel, Sch40 with thick head side flange, at least
3/8" thick

Starting these at $300
Hit me with orders I'll ship out in 2 weeks

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Re: big engine decision
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2010, 12:22:45 AM »
Ahhhhh! I'm buying a lower mileage engine next month! I won't be able to buy a manifold till arround fall :/ but what's a good turbo? I see a lot of people with saab turbos, but what's the subaru one you use?
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Re: big engine decision
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2010, 07:51:41 AM »
The turbos I have used were first one from a Mazda 1.6L engine, I could
swear it was an MX3 Turbo, but I can't find a turbo model in the info searches.

It boosted to 9PSI and was a good match for the engine size, hitting about 5 PSI
in about 25-30 feet on the street, so lag was never an issue, but it blew in Moab
from a defective oil pump blow off valve, so the next turbo I got was from the
Subaru, an early to mid 80s era IHI off of a turbo wagon, that  one boosted to 7 PSI
and was also a good match also.

The question I have is what is everyone else that is running a turbo using? what works
well for others? what will be easily available and not overly expensive

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Re: big engine decision
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2010, 11:51:46 AM »
Most of the ones I see online are saab because the spool quick and boost low psi, but there are tons of options. Ill half to ask my honda and subaru buddies what would be good, they know more about turbos and fins, psi, blow off valves and all the other goodies. Man, if I only I had the money id buy the manifold off of you asap, lol
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