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Offline 4Zstracker

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...coffee can speed bump scrapers...
« on: October 04, 2010, 06:47:18 PM »
Im gonna be upgrading my exhaust system soon, and i wondered what kind of difference in sound there is between running a turbo style muffler versus a glass-pack (cherry bomb )?

Im running a 1.6 16v with a K&N that already makes the truck kinda loud, witch isnt a problem, but it sounds kinda "ricey". Ive heard that a glass-pack for this engine will make it sound like one of those coffee can speed bump scrapers. Maybe its just hearsay, but thats not exactly the sound im after.
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Offline doughboy0379

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Re: ...coffee can speed bump scrapers...
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2010, 08:06:50 PM »
I could be wrong but I don't think a glass-pack would make it sound like a little "rice burner", a Resonator would though. A glass-pack goes in line right after the cat but a Resonator goes at the tip back near the rear bumper you could talk to a good muffler shop though to find out more I have heard both before and I would chose the glass pack if i had to (I like the Dynomax turbo muffler I have on my Zuk though) if I had the money though I would have gotten a Flowmaster.
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Re: ...coffee can speed bump scrapers...
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2010, 05:28:27 AM »
I did a glass pack on mine for a few weeks and took it off.... Very loud and raspy.... the 1.6 8V through an 18 or 24" glass pack was realy loud. I went to a flowmaster after that and loved it.

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Re: ...coffee can speed bump scrapers...
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2010, 08:13:21 PM »
I have a 12" glass pac and it is loud and sounds a bit deeper than a rice burner, but remember a samurai is a rice burner so call it what it is.  For me it's all about function, a glass pack holds up better to a rock and you can get the whole exhaust system tucked up better with one.  One good hit on a flow master or turbo muffler and it could kill your day, I deal with the sound.

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Re: ...coffee can speed bump scrapers...
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2010, 08:19:50 PM »
LOL unless you lowered your Zuk it is not burning the rice, only flying over it or just through it. That is why I don't call them rice burners (yes I know it is where they are from)
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Re: ...coffee can speed bump scrapers...
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2010, 09:47:21 PM »
Ok, im gonna have to say, I dont consider my zuk a "rice burner". It is japanese i guess, but i still want to at least let myself believe that its on a higher level. ;)

Anyways...

Zukipilot; what flowmaster muffler do you use?

Ive seen/ heard a 24" glass pack style muffler (not a resonator) on a 1.6 8v motor (...loud and raspy...), but does the 16v sound any different?
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Offline doughboy0379

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Re: ...coffee can speed bump scrapers...
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2010, 10:19:09 PM »
Ok, im gonna have to say, I dont consider my zuk a "rice burner". It is japanese i guess, but i still want to at least let myself believe that its on a higher level. ;)

Anyways...

Zukipilot; what flowmaster muffler do you use?

Ive seen/ heard a 24" glass pack style muffler (not a resonator) on a 1.6 8v motor (...loud and raspy...), but does the 16v sound any different?

AGREED Zuks ARE on a much higher level then the "rice burner" cars.
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Re: ...coffee can speed bump scrapers...
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2010, 09:22:37 PM »
i have a 16v in my sammy i run a 40 series flowmaster i love it
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Re: ...coffee can speed bump scrapers...
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2010, 05:51:27 AM »
When I was putting my Calmini header on, I just couldn't resist firing it up, with open pipes.  The best description of the sound I have heard so far is "pissed-off bumble-bee".  You can't turn that sound into a V-8 rumble, no matter what you do.  Best to just hang the flowmaster on there, and be surprised when your J**p-wheeling buddies ask "is that thing running?"
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Re: ...coffee can speed bump scrapers...
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2010, 06:07:37 AM »
I am currently running a HushPower by Flowmaster on my V-6. Previously I believe it was a 40 series that I ran on the old kick with the 1.6..... contrary to what thefirstzukman believes... the flowmaster is made of thick plate and will not crush from trail use. I ran the same 40 series muffler for 5-6 years after getting tired of replacing turbo / stock style mufflers that were destroyed by trail use and have sat the entire weight of the vehicle on flowmasters and barely left a scratch.

Also, if your looking for a muffler that allows better trail clearance. Flowmasters fit tight to the belly of the Kicks and only hang down 3.5" (if I remember correctly).

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Re: ...coffee can speed bump scrapers...
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2010, 06:09:39 AM »
and be surprised when your J**p-wheeling buddies ask "is that thing running?"
Very true.. I heard that many times with the calmini Header, flowmaster and 2.25 exhaust.... And they never believe you when you smile and tell them it's stock  >:D

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Re: ...coffee can speed bump scrapers...
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2010, 06:27:33 AM »
Similar question...  putting a 2.0 VW gas engine in, can i reuse my cat from the 1.3 sammy engine? i dont have to pass emisions fyi

and if i have 2" from the header do i have to have 2" into muffler/cat or can i modify it to fit?
« Last Edit: October 15, 2010, 06:39:55 AM by jow003 »
if a bigger hammer, bigger tires or more gas doesn't help... your doing it wrong.

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Re: ...coffee can speed bump scrapers...
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2010, 08:46:31 AM »
It would be best to have the same size all the way through, 2" is usually
good enough for a 2.0, but I would use whatever size the factory used
for that engine, or a little larger.

I have always loved the power of the VW engines (water cooled) and
thought a 1.8 GTI 8v engine (101 hp) would be perfect, but that 2.0
I think is a 16V would be much better, and a turbo would make it perfect
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Re: ...coffee can speed bump scrapers...
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2010, 12:40:39 PM »
thats what i was thinkin but he seemed to think a supercharger would be better for offroad.  I think the header comes out as 2" which is prolly what id keep unless someone was very persuasive :P

whats the benefit to something like a flowmaster 40 series and a glasspack like a cherrybomb?  Ive only heard about glass packs being used to make everything alot louder
if a bigger hammer, bigger tires or more gas doesn't help... your doing it wrong.

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Re: ...coffee can speed bump scrapers...
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2010, 08:04:24 PM »
Get a quiet type but good flow muffler, 4 bangers IMO never
sound that good noisy

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