Hello Guest

Lifting questions

  • 31 Replies
  • 5932 Views

0 Members and 24 Guests are viewing this topic.

*

Offline jeff1997

  • 1228
  • 27
  • Gender: Male
  • Suzuki: A Jeep thing only cheaper!!!!
Re: Lifting questions
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2010, 11:17:58 AM »
Really the rear spacers did not fit??? Did they have the lip on them still. I should have removed it for the newer models. SORRY if I did not.  :-[ As far as the droop in the rear I do not know. My spacers never came out and I had the same setup as you.
1997 4dr. Sidekick Sport 1.8L DOHC
2" coil spacers- I make and sell 1.5" and 2" on e-bay.  Look under seller: hoepkers
3" Masterkit1 body lift
Custom strut spacers
31/11.50/16 Super Swamper LTB's w/1.5" wheel spacers Steel bumpers Custom cold air intake 2" exhaust w/cherry bomb 98 Expedition, 2" lift, 35's, Magnaflow exhaust - BIG BLUE

*

Offline bush buster

  • 263
  • 1
  • Gender: Male
Re: Lifting questions
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2010, 02:49:13 PM »
My rear spacers (Jeff's) had to be taken down just a little in diameter.  It also looked like they were too tall and the springs would possibly be able to move/pop out.  So far they have not moved, and i've been playing with them . :D 


(FOR SALE, drop me a line) '01 Vitara 2.0, 2" suspension lift, 2" body lift, 31x10.5x15 Interco TRXUS MT's on ford truck turbine rims, 1" wheel spacers, manual hubs, 5125 gears (Sidekick rear and GV steel front). DD/bushmobile "Snowflake"

'06 Impreza - Wife's ride and road tripper
 
1975 Dodge 360 Sportsman 1 ton van chassis with a 21' Triple E Class C motorhome

*

Offline jeff1997

  • 1228
  • 27
  • Gender: Male
  • Suzuki: A Jeep thing only cheaper!!!!
Re: Lifting questions
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2010, 05:58:58 PM »
What diameter is too big? The overall 4"+ size or the lip diameter? This is the first I have heard of the diameter being too big.
1997 4dr. Sidekick Sport 1.8L DOHC
2" coil spacers- I make and sell 1.5" and 2" on e-bay.  Look under seller: hoepkers
3" Masterkit1 body lift
Custom strut spacers
31/11.50/16 Super Swamper LTB's w/1.5" wheel spacers Steel bumpers Custom cold air intake 2" exhaust w/cherry bomb 98 Expedition, 2" lift, 35's, Magnaflow exhaust - BIG BLUE

*

Offline bush buster

  • 263
  • 1
  • Gender: Male
Re: Lifting questions
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2010, 05:46:20 AM »
The overall diameter.  It was required to get them to fit up into the cups. It was a very small amount though. I thought you told me that was normal since the different year/models have slightly different sizes? or was that for the front?  the front seemed too tight to slide all the way up, but as per your suggestion we pounded them on no problem. Thanks again Jeff!  I'm really happy with my ride.
(FOR SALE, drop me a line) '01 Vitara 2.0, 2" suspension lift, 2" body lift, 31x10.5x15 Interco TRXUS MT's on ford truck turbine rims, 1" wheel spacers, manual hubs, 5125 gears (Sidekick rear and GV steel front). DD/bushmobile "Snowflake"

'06 Impreza - Wife's ride and road tripper
 
1975 Dodge 360 Sportsman 1 ton van chassis with a 21' Triple E Class C motorhome

*

Offline jeff1997

  • 1228
  • 27
  • Gender: Male
  • Suzuki: A Jeep thing only cheaper!!!!
Re: Lifting questions
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2010, 06:36:28 AM »
Normally the front requires adjustment on some. I have never heard of the rear not fitting. Did it have to be taken down or did pounding get it it? The top of the spacer is larger than the front due to mold taper, but not that much.
1997 4dr. Sidekick Sport 1.8L DOHC
2" coil spacers- I make and sell 1.5" and 2" on e-bay.  Look under seller: hoepkers
3" Masterkit1 body lift
Custom strut spacers
31/11.50/16 Super Swamper LTB's w/1.5" wheel spacers Steel bumpers Custom cold air intake 2" exhaust w/cherry bomb 98 Expedition, 2" lift, 35's, Magnaflow exhaust - BIG BLUE

Re: Lifting questions
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2010, 06:51:22 AM »
It was the OD, I cut the spacers on a lathe to fit. The steel cups welded to the frame were about 1/8 inch smaller.

The front ID was about .050 too tight.
Just had to sand them a little with a dremel and hammer them on using a roll of duct tape as the punch. ( 1,000,001 uses and counting! )

As posted by bush buster, the factory probably made several different sizes.
This would make sense since this would keep the 4D rear springs from accidentally being installed in a 2D ( or vice-versa ) on the assembly line.

I'd think nothing of it.
`00 2D 2.0L Auto Tracker, Jeff1997's 2" Coil Lift, Mudchild's 2" Body Lift and 31x10.5R15 General Grabber Competition Tires

*

Offline jeff1997

  • 1228
  • 27
  • Gender: Male
  • Suzuki: A Jeep thing only cheaper!!!!
Re: Lifting questions
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2010, 01:09:18 PM »
I am just trying to keep everybody happy  ;D. I am still finding there are little differences that each year and style have that requires a little tweak here and there.
1997 4dr. Sidekick Sport 1.8L DOHC
2" coil spacers- I make and sell 1.5" and 2" on e-bay.  Look under seller: hoepkers
3" Masterkit1 body lift
Custom strut spacers
31/11.50/16 Super Swamper LTB's w/1.5" wheel spacers Steel bumpers Custom cold air intake 2" exhaust w/cherry bomb 98 Expedition, 2" lift, 35's, Magnaflow exhaust - BIG BLUE

*

Offline nprecon

  • 2318
  • 52
  • Gender: Male
  • ONWARD... through the fog!
Re: Lifting questions
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2010, 02:13:28 PM »
Jeff, I had to remove about 1/8" from the top down about 1/2" of my rear coil spacers to allow them to sit into the upper spring retaining cup.  I just went over to the bench grinder and scrubbed them off.  No big deal.  I started to do the same for the front but found mine fit up into the spring cup just find without any adjustment.  This was way back in December 1997. I've had absolutely no problems whats so ever with them since the install.   I used two inch longer shocks to match the 2" lift so there is no way the springs will fall out unless one of my shock mounts failed... but that could also be true if the suspension was stock under the right cirmstances.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2010, 02:15:26 PM by nprecon »
'02 Chezuki Tracker with a 2 Liter and 5spd.  It works for me!!!

Re: Lifting questions
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2010, 09:08:57 PM »
If you're in the market for better struts in the future, I'd check out the Rocky-Road OME struts.  They give your ride alot more down travel than stock.

nprecon was right about the strut mounts.  Mine were fine when I first lifted it, but they later blew out when my struts blew.  Look around in the local junkyards and grab yourself an extra set...you might need them later.

Also, you said you have had to do very little mantience and your Tracker has 110,000 miles?  I just hit 100,000 and my upper timing chain broke and ruined the whole head.  Long story short it took 2 badly remanufactured heads, $2,100, a labor lawsuit, and about 4 months to get my baby running..decent, again; still doesn't run right.  Other people on the message boards have had their chains break at 70,000 miles.  Just some friendly advice, get your chain replaced NOW before it wears out the the point of failure.  I was at 2,500 RPM 4th gear just cruising less than 1/2 a mile from my house when mine broke for no reason. 

Save yourself the hassle I went though, get a quote for a new upper timing chain.  My .02 cents.

Damn Suzuki motors.. :-[

*

Offline IanL

  • 466
  • 5
  • Gender: Male
  • You know the answer - DIY :-)
Re: Lifting questions
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2010, 01:52:14 AM »
Nothing wrong with the chains.  It's the hydraulic tensioners that fail, and they won't fail if you use fully synthetic 5w30 engine oil.  That's been posted here many times.
'98 GV V6, '96 X-90 with RRO 2.5" lift and 195/80 R15, '93 Cappuccino.

Re: Lifting questions
« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2010, 07:30:06 PM »
Hmm..I will have to keep that in mind.  That goes for the 2.5L's as well, or just the 2.0L's?

*

Offline IanL

  • 466
  • 5
  • Gender: Male
  • You know the answer - DIY :-)
Re: Lifting questions
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2010, 12:35:50 AM »
Hmm..I will have to keep that in mind.  That goes for the 2.5L's as well, or just the 2.0L's?

Specifically for the 2.5s - I can't say about the 2.0s, but why chance it?
'98 GV V6, '96 X-90 with RRO 2.5" lift and 195/80 R15, '93 Cappuccino.

Re: Lifting questions
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2010, 07:48:55 PM »
Hmm..I will have to keep that in mind.  That goes for the 2.5L's as well, or just the 2.0L's?

Specifically for the 2.5s - I can't say about the 2.0s, but why chance it?

Well I had the 2.0 when the timing chain broke, but I'm replacing it with a 2.5.  5w-30 synthetic for the v-6 as well?

*

Offline IanL

  • 466
  • 5
  • Gender: Male
  • You know the answer - DIY :-)
Re: Lifting questions
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2010, 12:12:40 AM »
Hmm..I will have to keep that in mind.  That goes for the 2.5L's as well, or just the 2.0L's?

Specifically for the 2.5s - I can't say about the 2.0s, but why chance it?

Well I had the 2.0 when the timing chain broke, but I'm replacing it with a 2.5.  5w-30 synthetic for the v-6 as well?
Definitely!
'98 GV V6, '96 X-90 with RRO 2.5" lift and 195/80 R15, '93 Cappuccino.

Re: Lifting questions
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2010, 09:16:11 PM »
Ok, thanks for the insights, sorry the thread got hijacked..