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Offline HappyHarold4

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Liter--CC--Horsepower
« on: September 15, 2009, 01:09:26 PM »
On the Sammy 1.3 and the Kick 1.6---What is the CC and horsepower equivalent---Is there a chart that compares---I wanted to compare to the Toyota 22r---Thanks

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Re: Liter--CC--Horsepower
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 08:07:52 AM »
I build all 3 of those motors here in house. All stock they will be at 60 75 and 115 stock horsepower. The 22re (late) is a 2.4L. In my opnion the 22r has the greatest potential for H.p and Torque ( 9.7:1 KB pistons w/ JFE 272 cam) That motor will bring 160-185HP. The downside is the weight, the 22r longblock is 220lbs dressed closed to 300lbs. The cc rating is something like 1324, 1598, and 2398.....something like that.
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Re: Liter--CC--Horsepower
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 10:04:55 AM »
Quote from: HappyHarold4 on September 15, 2009, 01:09:26 PM
On the Sammy 1.3 and the Kick 1.6---What is the CC and horsepower equivalent---Is there a chart that compares---I wanted to compare to the Toyota 22r---Thanks

Happy

CC?  Cubic centimeters?

1.3 liters = 1300 cubic centimeters
1.6 liters = 1600 cubic centimeters

That can't be what you were asking.
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Re: Liter--CC--Horsepower
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 12:31:32 PM »
I have 2 -- 22r's so I am familiar with them and how they run and pull etc.  Have never had a Sammy or Kick, so just wanted to see how gutless they may or may not be. I want to get a Tracker with coil springs, auto trans and auto 4x4 with 1.6 .

Sammypro---Thanks for the detailed answer--appreciate it

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Re: Liter--CC--Horsepower
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2009, 01:09:06 PM »
Base Stock numbers according to the factory:

1.3L 8 Valve Sammy - 65 HP
1.6L 8 Valve Tracker - 85 HP
1.6L 16 Valve Tracker - 95 HP

As Sammypro pointed out though, you can do some work to make them go one way or another.  :D
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Re: Liter--CC--Horsepower
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2009, 04:49:34 PM »
he's looking for HP/L or per CC specs
1300 is 46.1 HP Per Liter
1600 is 50 HP Per Liter
and a 2.4L 22r would be 47.9
I don't know what the Toyota
engine is off hand, but 115 sounds about right.

To put this all together, you must also know that the torque of the engine
is what moves you, so a 22r engine will pull more weight, and that a 1.6 Suzuki
engine is a stroked 1.3, with about 15mm more stroke and 1mm larger bore
than the 1.3, so it will be a better torque engine even if the HP is not much
higher

Wild
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Re: Liter--CC--Horsepower
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2009, 01:25:23 PM »
Sammypro, those are some nice looking engines you got there. Wish mine were that pretty.
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Re: Liter--CC--Horsepower
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2009, 10:07:29 AM »
? For sammypro...what does you performance cam do for a stock 1.6 16v? How much to rebuild my 1.6 16v to stock specs and balanced?
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