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Offline djlantis57

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Re: Transfer case swap, gears
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2009, 12:50:49 AM »
Eh, with all this, seems like I'd be best just installing the 4.24 gearset in a Tracker case.  Still need a newer one, cause my 90 won't work...but it'd be simpler and easier.  Also, if I put the Samurai case in there, and geared it down, it would change my final drive ratio in high range...and I like the street driving it has now, so don't want to change it, it tachs about 3,700 at 65 in 5th and climbs the grade in 4th pedal to the floor pretty good too.  Seems like it'd be as slow as I'd ever need to go with 4.24 compared to my 1.82 I have now
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Re: Transfer case swap, gears
« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2009, 07:45:13 AM »
Quote from: djlantis57 on December 18, 2009, 11:49:32 AM
Geez, you're like a dictionary of knowledge, ain't you!
Basically, I wouldn't need TWO cases providing low range...primarily because I have a 2dr and that rear driveshaft needs to be as long as possible otherwise it's too short (it's already a short shaft).  I think it'd be good to either run my Tracker case with 4.24 OR, if possible, eliminate my case and install a Samurai case, and install a gear set in that case.  Because in a Samurai case, the reduction also affects the high range, too, right?  That would almost be like me gearing my low to 4.24 and changing my diffs to 5.38 or 5.62 if I installed a Samurai case with just the 6.5:1.  Except, I wouldn't have to mess with my diffs that way.
Yes, a samurai tcase has high range reduction built into it and if you put in lower gears, it also lowers the high range ratio even more.

Quote from: Skyhiranger on December 18, 2009, 07:52:37 AM
One other thing that guys do, that don't need the extra gear reduction in low (which is provided by keeping the trackick tcase), is to run a 2wd trackick tranny with a divorced samurai tcase. 
I'm confused...what do you mean here?  That they run a 2wd Tracker transmission, with the Samurai case?
Yes, they run a 2wd trackick tranny with a samurai tcase.

Quote from: Skyhiranger on December 18, 2009, 07:52:37 AM
There is also the option of just removing the trackick tcase from the trackick tranny and running the samurai tcase with an intermediate shaft (that makes the overall drivetrain shorter than running the 2wd tranny with a samurai tcase). 
I was under the impression that this is what a Kicker 1 does...reading the site, it says it is meant to mount a Samurai case to a Track/kick engine and trans...so is this what it does?
How does this setup run shorter than using a 2wd trans with the Samurai case?
A kicker 1 keeps the trackick tcase on the trackick tranny and then just modifies the backside of the trackick tcase and output shaft to shorten everything up a little bit.
If you remove the trackick tcase from the trackick tranny, I believe that makes the tranny shorter overall than a trackick 2wd tranny.  And, IIRC, the output shaft of the 4wd trackick tranny is the same spline as the output shaft of the 2wd trackick tranny and the output shaft of the samurai tranny.  So you can run the samurai intermediate shaft (shortened or stock length) between the tranny and the samurai tcase.
It sounds like you don't want to change your high (2wd) range ratio any.....so therefore, your only choice is to NOT run a samurai tcase, since there is no way around the built in reduction in high range that the samurai tcase has.  You just need to regear your trackick tcase and run it that way....since lower tcase gears do not affect the high range ratio in a trackick tcase.
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Re: Transfer case swap, gears
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2009, 10:47:36 AM »
Makes a lot of sense, thanks for all the help.  I'm pretty sure I don't want to change my high range ratio at all, just the low.  From what I understand, the 4.24 is more than enough for my use.
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