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engine question
« on: July 08, 2009, 03:46:26 PM »

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Re: engine question
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2009, 10:09:01 PM »
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Re: engine question
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2009, 06:40:46 AM »
« Last Edit: July 09, 2009, 06:47:40 AM by captchee »

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Re: engine question
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2009, 10:05:08 AM »
1.6L bottom ends are the same - the difference is in the head / intake / fuel injection & ECU. So, yes, you can toss in a 16v bottom end, and your 8v heads. Samurai guys do this all the time (the 1.3L head will bolt up too). The 8v head is the same in the 1.3L and the 1.6L. The valve seats may be okay, it's far more common for the valve guide seals to go out (read: cheaper & easier).

8v = 80 HP / Tq
16v = 95 HP / tq
2.0L = 130 Hp / Tq

If I were doing a complete swap, I'd be looking for a 2.0L. A lot more power for about the same $$$ (if buying commercially). Check out aftermarket4x4.com - Sean's got several writeups on engine swaps on there. That said - I've seen complete 1.6L go for pretty cheap (private party) in my area ($300-$600 NorCal). Geo Tracker IS the Suzuki Sidekick. Geo never manufactured a single vehicle - they only re-badged other vehicles (Suzuki, Isuzu & Toyota). Also keep an eye out for JDM engines. If frankensteining engines doesn't scare you, in theory you may be able to use heads from Geo Metros (Suzuki Swifts). Check out teamswift.net for more info.
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Re: engine question
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2009, 01:01:03 PM »
 thank you both for the reply's
 i relly didnt think the knock was all that bad yet , but today  she really went .
. i got her over to the side .
 basicly im really impressed , she got me home . granted 30 miles at 15 mph . but she got me home and then died .

 thank you all for the  info . ill look around for a new engine .

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Re: engine question
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2009, 01:42:36 PM »
I've known several people who have used the 16V bottom end with the 8V head. The pistons have different valve pockets but the valves clear the pistons. It will most likely be an interference engine.
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Re: engine question
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2009, 08:56:06 PM »
ok so another question . i called the local import engine dealer down in boise .
 he found one but wanted  1100 + core .
so i decided to just do a google  and see what was out there .
what im finding is in the 6-800 range ??????

 is there on online dealer on the west cost that folks have used and had good results ?

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Re: engine question
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2009, 01:36:36 AM »
http://www.car-part.com/

Hawk & Trail Tough are in Oregon - probably wouldn't be too much $$$ to ship to you. Though, sometimes they charge a premium price for their used stuff... just depends on how over / under stocked they are on bits I guess. Keep an eye out on the for sale section here too.
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Re: engine question
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2009, 06:40:51 AM »
 will do , thank you
 depending on the shipping charge , i might  just drive over and get it

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Re: engine question
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2009, 08:56:49 PM »
  would some buddy have a link to these two places ? the one i found was  back east I think

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Re: engine question
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2009, 02:12:10 AM »
I'll be a little rude, and say these were the top two Google searches, and be helpful and post the links  ;D
http://www.hawksuzukiparts.com/
http://www.trailtough.com/
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Re: engine question
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2009, 04:25:39 AM »
 thank you

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Re: engine question
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2009, 08:18:20 AM »
I'll be a little rude, and say these were the top two Google searches, and be helpful and post the links  ;D
http://www.hawksuzukiparts.com/
http://www.trailtough.com/


OK I'll be a little rude too! type  :P into google and Im the 5th one on the right!!!! g13b.com  ;D
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Re: engine question
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2009, 08:19:27 AM »
lol, that didnt work.......if you type SUZUKI ENGINE into google ....
Let me tell you what Melba Toast is packin' right here, all right. We got 4:11 Positrac outback, 750 double pumper, Edelbrock intake, bored over 30, 11 to 1 pop-up pistons, turbo-jet 390 horsepower. We're talkin' some freakin' muscle.

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Re: engine question
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2009, 08:17:01 PM »
actaualy  neather came up for me on google . what did come up was  after market 4X4
 thats why i ask .

as to suzuki engine
 this is what google gave me as it first page

 just thought you should know

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