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Offline Eden1

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pinging
« on: July 06, 2009, 12:27:20 AM »
i have a 92 tracker 1.6, its pinging in the midrange area . im at 8 degrees and have tinkered with it a little. i also got that raw fuel kinda smell from the exhaust, im running thorly headers with no cat and dynaflo muffler. 2" all the way back. new plugs, wires and cap??

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Re: pinging
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2009, 10:52:20 AM »
nothing at all eh?  MAYBE ITS THE PRESSURE IN THE TIRES!!!

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Offline ebewley

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Re: pinging
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2009, 10:53:49 AM »
Did you follow the factory recommended procedure for timing the engine?

How do your plugs look after driving for awhile?

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Re: pinging
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2009, 10:56:05 AM »
Have you got a check engine light showing? Have you still got the EGR valve linked up?
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Offline Eden1

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Re: pinging
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2009, 03:21:58 PM »
plugs are ok a little dark, and the egr is hooked up..and the timing is lined up with the notch on the bottom and top...i do however have a offset key in the timing gear?

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Offline zukimoo

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Re: pinging
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2009, 04:49:22 PM »
I've had zukes that loved to ping until I spent the money on high octane fuel. Some didn't mind the cheap stuff but the first one was bad.

I had gone fishing with my dad....had the canoe on the top and heading 6 hours away. We pulled into the gas station and he pumped....I shifted into second gear and told him that he put in the wrong fuel. He told me that there was no way that I'd notice so I told him to drive. When we fueled up the second time he took the wheel and as soon as he hit the gas to shift he told me that he had thought I was crazy but now he could feel the difference.....

i had tried to adjust the timing but it never helped....try the fuel and see. I checked on the amount of milleage I got and the extra cost showed in the extra milleage...unless I drove with my foot to the floor.
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Re: pinging
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2009, 06:08:00 PM »
plugs are ok a little dark, and the egr is hooked up..and the timing is lined up with the notch on the bottom and top...i do however have a offset key in the timing gear?

Did you use a jumper to keep the computer from messing with the timing while you were adjusting it?
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Re: pinging
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2009, 12:34:20 AM »
no i didnt use a jumper?? is that on the same plug that gives up codes or am i jumping it from a diffrent terminal?

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Re: pinging
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2009, 04:43:20 AM »
I do however have a offset key in the timing gear?

You need to find out if your timing mark is accurate and then double check both the valve timing and the ignition timing.
You need the jumper, its the same plug as the CEL but a different terminal.
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Offline Eden1

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Re: pinging
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2009, 01:12:35 AM »
ha ha ha. got it!!! that little key i put in there is offset 4 degrees. which meens that my timing needed to be set at 4 degrees...lol..and thanks to rhinoman for the little jumper trick..that makes it a hell of alot easier to time... now she has got that midrange jump and no stinking raw fuel smell....and best of all no ping ping...

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Re: pinging
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2009, 10:03:15 AM »
Glad you found the problem!
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