Hello Guest

Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues

  • 64 Replies
  • 14604 Views

0 Members and 5 Guests are viewing this topic.

*

Offline flexmonger

  • 209
  • 0
  • Gender: Male
  • live to wheel and wheel to die.
Re: Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2004, 08:12:10 PM »
   I am thinking of along the lines of a kick or sammy front 3rd member with sammy front knuckles. Thicker axle tubes and 26 spline front shafts and birfs. Cromoly would be nice but not mandatory. As for suspension setup, my choice , you just make the axle and I will take care of all the suspension to keep it simple and cost effective. Maybe able to offer custom lengths also.
   Basically a economic version of the big or little Suzana that is in production.

*

Offline Underpressure

  • 48
  • 0
  • Gender: Male
  • Twist and shout!
Re: Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues
« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2004, 03:19:19 AM »
 So...You keep the Samurai front knuckles/outters, go for stronger axle tubes, Stronger axles and birfs, and custom lengths.
 What is the favorable range of widths?(wms-wms)
I was thinking of something that uses larger bearings and spindles, bigger brakes, and a bigger ring and pinnion. Mabey rebuildable u-joints.
 

*

Offline flexmonger

  • 209
  • 0
  • Gender: Male
  • live to wheel and wheel to die.
Re: Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues
« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2004, 03:23:20 PM »
  Ideally my thought was a direct replacement to handle 33"-34" tire range. Keep either the rear kick 3rd member or the sammy front with rear spider gears. Cromoly front everything, like he was mentioning and thicker custom axle tubes to choice of widths.
 Of course bigger brakes and ujoints instead of birfs would be nice. But that would be a Suzana, not really as cost effective as my planned concept. Just reusing sammy or kick center housings and sammy axle tube ends. These parts are readily available and cheaper and easier to acquire than yota axle now days.

*

Offline 1bigtracker

  • 3409
  • 1
  • Gender: Male
  • F*** trail rated, try trail tested
Re: Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues
« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2004, 03:26:15 PM »
ummm i think hes trying to keep in low budget guys ;)


stu
   

*

Offline HotRod

  • *
  • 4334
  • 2
  • Gender: Male
  • 95 Tracker
    • cardomain.
Re: Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues
« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2004, 04:13:24 PM »
Quote
  These parts are readily available and cheaper and easier to acquire than yota axle now days.


Gee, I just found a Yota for 200 bucks today in a tow yard. ;D
Still wondering if I should get it and swap in the axles. Anybody know how to make the steering work with the yota axles and a slip-yoke elimanation?  Or just swap in a Sammie T-case? ???
« Last Edit: August 18, 2004, 04:13:37 PM by trickker »
95 2dr Geo Tracker with Calmini 6"inch combo lift, 32'inch BFGs M/Tlocked and loaded--D.D is my 06 Racy RED Aerio SX AWD

*

Offline 1bigtracker

  • 3409
  • 1
  • Gender: Male
  • F*** trail rated, try trail tested
Re: Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues
« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2004, 04:21:44 PM »
Quote


Gee, I just found a Yota for 200 bucks today in a tow yard. ;D
Still wondering if I should get it and swap in the axles. Anybody know how to make the steering work with the yota axles and a slip-yoke elimanation?  Or just swap in a Sammie T-case? ???

i know where their are plunty of those axles, why anyone want some??? ;D

stu
   

*

Offline HotRod

  • *
  • 4334
  • 2
  • Gender: Male
  • 95 Tracker
    • cardomain.
Re: Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues
« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2004, 04:31:39 PM »
Quote

i know where their are plunty of those axles, why anyone want some??? ;D

stu

Now if you were only around the corner from me ;)
95 2dr Geo Tracker with Calmini 6"inch combo lift, 32'inch BFGs M/Tlocked and loaded--D.D is my 06 Racy RED Aerio SX AWD

*

Offline idaholwb

  • 772
  • 2
  • Gender: Male
  • And that's the way the metal crumpled!
Re: Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues
« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2004, 04:43:14 PM »
 Don't bother with a slip yoke eliminator, go with a kicker3 and a sammy case, more options for gearing.
97 Sport
265/70-16s
2" lift
2.0 swap
I know...Pretty boring... FOR NOW...

*

Offline HotRod

  • *
  • 4334
  • 2
  • Gender: Male
  • 95 Tracker
    • cardomain.
Re: Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues
« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2004, 05:12:11 PM »
Quote
Don't bother with a slip yoke eliminator, go with a kicker3 and a sammy case, more options for gearing.

What and where?
Okay, I;ve seen a pic of the adapter for the Sammie t-case to  Tracker Tranny. Would that be it?
Now if I can just remember where I saw that pic from?

Mannn. I just installed that crawler gear and 2lo  :-/
« Last Edit: August 18, 2004, 05:16:23 PM by trickker »
95 2dr Geo Tracker with Calmini 6"inch combo lift, 32'inch BFGs M/Tlocked and loaded--D.D is my 06 Racy RED Aerio SX AWD

*

Offline idaholwb

  • 772
  • 2
  • Gender: Male
  • And that's the way the metal crumpled!
Re: Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues
« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2004, 05:17:22 PM »
 It mates the modified kick t-case to the stock sammy case, Go to www.ottindustries.com/kicker3.htm and look at the whole thing.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2004, 05:19:45 PM by idaholwb »
97 Sport
265/70-16s
2" lift
2.0 swap
I know...Pretty boring... FOR NOW...

*

Offline HotRod

  • *
  • 4334
  • 2
  • Gender: Male
  • 95 Tracker
    • cardomain.
Re: Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues
« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2004, 05:24:48 PM »
Quote
It mates the modified kick t-case to the stock sammy case, Go to www.ottindustries.com/kicker3.htm and look at the whole thing.

Thanks. I knew I saw it somewhere.
Now I just saved it as a Fav ;D
95 2dr Geo Tracker with Calmini 6"inch combo lift, 32'inch BFGs M/Tlocked and loaded--D.D is my 06 Racy RED Aerio SX AWD

*

Offline flexmonger

  • 209
  • 0
  • Gender: Male
  • live to wheel and wheel to die.
Re: Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2004, 05:49:02 PM »
  There is a very high demand for toyota solid axles right now and I have seen the crunch. Sure their always around when you do not need it, but they are being sought after by other asian 4wheel enthusiasts. Especially the new toyota owners wanting them. I don't think I want to reupgrade my stuff for bigger birfs and redo absolutely everything. Keep it light simple and gear the hell out of it.

*

Offline HotRod

  • *
  • 4334
  • 2
  • Gender: Male
  • 95 Tracker
    • cardomain.
Re: Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues
« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2004, 01:45:27 PM »
Well, I haven't done anything yet.  Still deciding on what to do. Yota is 200 bucks.  Wasted a grand on crawler gear and ARB for Tracker  :-/
Buy Kicker 3  T-case
and other stuff.  ???
Maybe
maybe not.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2004, 01:46:29 PM by trickker »
95 2dr Geo Tracker with Calmini 6"inch combo lift, 32'inch BFGs M/Tlocked and loaded--D.D is my 06 Racy RED Aerio SX AWD

*

Offline 1bigtracker

  • 3409
  • 1
  • Gender: Male
  • F*** trail rated, try trail tested
Re: Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues
« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2004, 02:24:46 PM »
Quote
Well, I haven't done anything yet.  Still deciding on what to do. Yota is 200 bucks.  Wasted a grand on crawler gear and ARB for Tracker  :-/
Buy Kicker 3  T-case
and other stuff.  ???
Maybe
maybe not.

going SAS is hard enough, doing it with yota would be even harder i think.  and what about the wheel base of the tracker?  a kicker 3 won't fit will it?

stu
   

*

Offline HotRod

  • *
  • 4334
  • 2
  • Gender: Male
  • 95 Tracker
    • cardomain.
Re: Tracker SAS w/ sammy axle - track width issues
« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2004, 04:50:04 PM »
Quote

going SAS is hard enough, doing it with yota would be even harder i think.  and what about the wheel base of the tracker?  a kicker 3 won't fit will it?

stu

Yota axles I think would be easier cause they're already the right width and youd have bigger brakes, just convert it to leaf springs. Steering would be a little problematic but its been done b-4. Using Sammie t-case would give you a high gear reduction and slip-yoke elimanation.
Wheel base might be a problem on a 2dr though :-/
95 2dr Geo Tracker with Calmini 6"inch combo lift, 32'inch BFGs M/Tlocked and loaded--D.D is my 06 Racy RED Aerio SX AWD