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Offline zukizuki07

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Re: Little Confused GV/XL7 Iron front Dif.
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2009, 12:40:59 PM »
Just got off the phone with hawk suzuki, awesome service! Looking at $1000 assembled.... oh how I wish I could pick up a used housing/gear set  :'(

I have a front diff gear set removed from the steel housing.  Appears to be like new. I think it is out of an automatic with 5:12 gears.  Does that sound right? I bought it for the steel housing and did not really care what gears were in it.  $100 + Shipping.
need 5 speed to 5 speed sorry.... thanks though! now either i replace with another weak aluminum diff. or try to find a good writeup on using a sammi rear axle in the front..... oh how I wish I had more money and yota's

The 5.12 gears are the ones that you need for a 5sp manual. however autos are usually 4.88s or similar.
thats why i was not interested, because of it being an auto trans  ???
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4 door springs, Calmini 3"BL , Trailtough Mini spool , 31's
Plans: Jeffs  diff spacer, bumpers, smittybuilt 8k winch and XL7 iron Diff. housing swap

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Re: Little Confused GV/XL7 Iron front Dif.
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2009, 01:01:05 PM »
I looked at the ring and pinion I have.  It is a 4.30 gear ratio with a 10 pinion /43 ring tooth count.  Now according to the website I looked up the XL7 uses the 4:30 ratio in a manual transmission and the 5:13 ratio on the automatic.  I know that seems opposite of the Trackers but that is what I found.

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Re: Little Confused GV/XL7 Iron front Dif.
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2009, 01:50:58 PM »
I looked at the ring and pinion I have.  It is a 4.30 gear ratio with a 10 pinion /43 ring tooth count.  Now according to the website I looked up the XL7 uses the 4:30 ratio in a manual transmission and the 5:13 ratio on the automatic.  I know that seems opposite of the Trackers but that is what I found.

hmm i have to call hawk and see what they think, Ill let you know thanks.
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4 door springs, Calmini 3"BL , Trailtough Mini spool , 31's
Plans: Jeffs  diff spacer, bumpers, smittybuilt 8k winch and XL7 iron Diff. housing swap

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Re: Little Confused GV/XL7 Iron front Dif.
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2009, 02:18:37 PM »
I have a Steel Front Housing from a GV.

I'm not going to use it, my plans have changed.

Send me a PM if you are looking for a Steel Front Housing.  ;)

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Re: Little Confused GV/XL7 Iron front Dif.
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2009, 02:22:54 PM »
I have a Steel Front Housing from a GV.

I'm not going to use it, my plans have changed.

Send me a PM if you are looking for a Steel Front Housing.  ;)
pm sent..... love this site
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4 door springs, Calmini 3"BL , Trailtough Mini spool , 31's
Plans: Jeffs  diff spacer, bumpers, smittybuilt 8k winch and XL7 iron Diff. housing swap

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Re: Little Confused GV/XL7 Iron front Dif.
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2009, 12:34:08 PM »
hawk does have machined thirds, or you can just do the trailtough front locker, it has the locker the carrrier everything  for 300 bucks that is a great deal. To piece this together would be more unless you already have an extra locker and a samurai carrier laying around.

http://www.trailtough.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=169&category_id=18&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53

I bought my parts directly from Suzuki, unfortunatley I do not have the part numbers anymore. I wanna say the front third unloaded was less than 250.00 but that was quite some time ago.

You may want to check in with Petroworks too. I know some people that good complete front housing/diffs everything from him that were basically pulled from scrap vehicles.

the RPM4x4 guys did the samurai third member in the front. There are not a lot of details here but there are some.

http://zukiworld.com/month_020105/feature_rockstarpart2.htm

here is some more information on modifying the front diff to stop the mounts from breaking
http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=21156.0


and again more information in this thread including the part number to order the XL7 steel front third member
http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=4408.0

may the force be with you.
hutch

awesome info thanks again
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4 door springs, Calmini 3"BL , Trailtough Mini spool , 31's
Plans: Jeffs  diff spacer, bumpers, smittybuilt 8k winch and XL7 iron Diff. housing swap

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Re: Little Confused GV/XL7 Iron front Dif.
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2009, 10:36:38 PM »
I had to pitch in here, I came across a GV in the wrecking yard, started to drool
over the thought of a steel front housing, only to be dissapointed that in was just
another aluminum housing ??? what gives? I thought the GV had steel front diffs?

Anyway, I robbed the 26 spline axles and put them in the Kick, along with a front
locker and a low range T-case set from TT.

Now I'm geared so low I can't run sand dunes, need a second T-case just for sand,
but Moab is going to be a blast  ;D

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Re: Little Confused GV/XL7 Iron front Dif.
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2009, 04:37:54 AM »
I had to pitch in here, I came across a GV in the wrecking yard, started to drool
over the thought of a steel front housing, only to be dissapointed that in was just
another aluminum housing ??? what gives? I thought the GV had steel front diffs?
Wild

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Re: Little Confused GV/XL7 Iron front Dif.
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2009, 08:58:46 AM »
I had to pitch in here, I came across a GV in the wrecking yard, started to drool
over the thought of a steel front housing, only to be dissapointed that in was just
another aluminum housing ??? what gives? I thought the GV had steel front diffs?

Anyway, I robbed the 26 spline axles and put them in the Kick, along with a front
locker and a low range T-case set from TT.

Now I'm geared so low I can't run sand dunes, need a second T-case just for sand,
but Moab is going to be a blast  ;D

Wild

Early on in the GV (1999-2002?) The automatics had aluminum housings and the Manuals had the steel housings.

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