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Offline captchee

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« on: July 14, 2008, 06:39:23 AM »
 Im new here and also new to Suzuki’s
 I recently purchased a 89 2 door sidekick . 1.6 , 8v .  i see alot of you are off road folks  and i to love that aspect . but i have a 1970 Scout 800 i built for that  so the suzuki will be for  mostly pavment and  simply mountian road driving .

I have a couple questions that maybe you all would be so kind to answer

First , does anyone know where I can  buy these rims . I see them in a lot of the  retailer adds but  cant seem to locate any .
 I would have purchased these as the were 90 bucks for the set  but they were the wrong bolt pattern and center hole was to small




 the other question i have is about the auto trany .
 will a 4 speed from  a later model bolt to  my 8v 1.6 ?.
 I currently have a 3 speed and was thinking that maybe   going to a 4
What would be the complications to doing this swap

 Right now im pulling a sound 30mpg  and I was thinking that maybe the over drive on the 4 would bump her up a little more

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Re: Hello
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2008, 10:19:29 AM »
If you are getting a true 30 I would be happy with that.  I get about 24-25 with my manual with the 29" Toyo MTR's and the 16v.
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Re: Hello
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2008, 01:56:44 PM »
yep solid 30 . sometimes 34 if i hold at 55 . thats on the open road though . around town and in trafic its 25 -28

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Re: Hello
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2008, 02:01:27 PM »
yep solid 30 . sometimes 34 if i hold at 55 . thats on the open road though . around town and in trafic its 25 -28

Don't change a thing.
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Re: Hello
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2008, 04:14:08 PM »
I agree with beercheck.

I've got a '95 3 speed auto and I get around 25 mpg highway.
Of course, I have 16 valves, 235/75 mud tires, and a 1.5" lift. I don't complain.  ::)

But 30 mpg is pretty damn good for a 19 year old 4-banger!
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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2008, 04:28:21 PM »
 yep that looks just like mine , im currently running P205/75R 15's on stock rims .
 did doing the lift reduce your mileage any ?.
 never really cared for the color white . so i been doing some crude  paint shop work
 here is what  im thinking about
 what she looks like now . as you can see i have to do something about these rims . she definatly needs some bling  i think



after paint shopping some rims and color

« Last Edit: July 14, 2008, 04:32:06 PM by captchee »

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Re: Hello
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2008, 05:58:20 PM »
I think Les Schwab carries those wheels.
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Re: Hello
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2008, 07:21:09 PM »
they carry the ones i have paintshopped  in, but not the ones in the top photo . well at least the Ontario Or or nampa idaho stores
« Last Edit: July 14, 2008, 07:22:40 PM by captchee »

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Re: Hello
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2008, 03:44:31 AM »
I actually have the wheels you show on the photo chop.  Nice looking, but a pain to clean.  I picked up a 5th at Discount Tire for pretty cheap.

Can't say I'm a fan of the gold paint on the bottom half.  But if you like it, go for it.  :)
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Re: Hello
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2008, 04:53:10 AM »
yep that looks just like mine , im currently running P205/75R 15's on stock rims .
 did doing the lift reduce your mileage any ?

To tell you the truth, my mileage stayed the same after the lift.
A pleasant surprise for me was that after I put the bigger tires on my mileage improved!
With the 3 speed tranny, the engine runs at about 300 rpm lower at 65 mph. That must be it. ???

never really cared for the color white . so i been doing some crude  paint shop work

Kidding me? Consider yourself lucky to get a white one. Especially in that condition. When I was searching for one I came across a lot of pink ones, and other oddly bright colors. :(
White doesn't show dirt as bad.
As for the gold; gold is the hardest color to match when repairing damage.

Hey, just my 2¢.
Paint it the way you like it. That's what it's all about. Have fun. :)
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Re: Hello
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2008, 05:46:36 AM »
  Thanks for the replies folks  it is appreciated
thats why i was thinking about bumping up to a 4 speed tranny . this should drop the top end RPMs at cruse and thus improve mileage even more .

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I picked up a 5th at Discount Tire for pretty cheap
wouldf that be over the net ? i looked at discount tire .  but maybe i just didnt look in the right place . would you have a link ?
 I had a set of  these rims a  few years back on my IH . really liked them .
 trick i found was to polish them and then put on a couple heavy coats of acrilic wax . this made them much easier to keep clean .

Gold Paint ????? :o
 NO , NO gold paint . must be a monitor thing or something . the color under the doors  is a light tan .
 i actually got the idea off a Tahoe that I saw . It what black on white  with tan  lower panels  looked real sharp .
 No offence meant to those here who like white ,  I hear ya , it doesn’t show the dirt really as bad .
 For me though I just never have been partial to it 
 But again no gold . LMAO  :laugh:
« Last Edit: July 15, 2008, 05:58:21 AM by captchee »

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Re: Hello
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2008, 06:59:11 AM »
thats why i was thinking about bumping up to a 4 speed tranny . this should drop the top end RPMs at cruse and thus improve mileage even more .

Possible, but doubtful.  Around town may improve, but hwy probly wouldn't.  You're at about the peak that I've ever heard of these things getting with normal driving.  '96 seems to have been the sweet spot for mileage; I and a few others on this board with '96s (1.6, 5-sp) would typically get 30mpg day in and day out, having to seriously bust a nut to get it down to 28mpg.  With the 1-2mpg improvement you MIGHT see, it'd take years to offset the expense and effort of the swap.

But, if you want the stick for any reason other than MPG improvement, absolutely go for it.  But keep in mind you'll probably have to change out your gears, too.  The autos usually have a steeper ratio, so putting in the stick without changing the gears may drop your RPMs at cruising speed clean out of the power band, pretty much making your fancy new top gear completely unusable.
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XL-7 front coils
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Re: Hello
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2008, 01:32:58 PM »
They look like the rims fitted to the UK Wideboy and Fatboy models. I have a set of 10x15s on my SJ410, they have Mangel centre caps.

33 x12.5 MT compared to the low profile Fatboy tyre:



« Last Edit: July 15, 2008, 01:35:22 PM by Rhinoman »
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Re: Hello
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2008, 01:50:41 PM »
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But, if you want the stick for any reason other than MPG improvement

 i was thinking of the later  autos with a 4 speed trany . well not really a 4 spead but a 3 with an overdrive


Rhinoman
 you know where i could find a set ? in say 15X6 ?

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Re: Hello
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2008, 12:54:49 PM »
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I picked up a 5th at Discount Tire for pretty cheap
wouldf that be over the net ? i looked at discount tire .  but maybe i just didnt look in the right place . would you have a link ?
Nope, I just went into the show room and asked about them.  They had a catalog and the sales guy recognized them immediately and we looked them up.  They accidentally ordered the 5 on 4.5 instead of 5 on 5.5 the first time, but they got it right the second time.  Great service.  :)

Gold Paint ????? :o
 NO , NO gold paint . must be a monitor thing or something . the color under the doors  is a light tan .
 i actually got the idea off a Tahoe that I saw . It what black on white  with tan  lower panels  looked real sharp .
That may be it.  More then likely the color difference is because I'm partially color blind.   :D
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