Use 1.6 for 1.6 and 1.3 for 1.3 belts,
swap pullies from 1.6 to 1.3 head, belt
is different too (i forgot  to mention)
the Sammy is square tooth, Kick is
round tooth, pullies swap no problem

What about a 1.6 with the 2wd kick trans? Does that swap offer any advantages to buying an adapter?

I dunno, might be too long tho
if not it would be a good swap

What about a 1.6 with the 2wd kick trans? Does that swap offer any advantages to buying an adapter?

trannys are different, in almost all aspects according to the research i have done. sidekicks use half shafts in the front whereas samis use a straight tube axle. in a sami, use the sami tranny with an adaptor.

Ya, but what you are siteing has no affect
on the use of a 2wd trans and a Sammy T-case

I thought I should let you guys know that this thread makes my head hurt

i am trying to remember how a friend's kick drivetrain is setup for tranny',Tcase,and how it all mounts. for some reason i seem to remember it would not be an easy swap into a sami.

i am trying to remember how a friend's kick drivetrain is setup for tranny',Tcase,and how it all mounts. for some reason i seem to remember it would not be an easy swap into a sami.

He wasn't talking about an entire drivetrain swap, just an the engine and 2wd trans with sammy tcase and axles

I thought I should let you guys know that this thread makes my head hurt

my sincere apologies for the brain pain. i do, however, greatly appreciate the help and input on the task at hand.

I see how drivetrain swap could be misunderstood now

i am trying to remember how a friend's kick drivetrain is setup for tranny',Tcase,and how it all mounts. for some reason i seem to remember it would not be an easy swap into a sami.

it has been done, and works well. the 2wd kick tranny is slightly longer than the sammi tranny and modifications to the tunnel will have to be made unless you have a 3" body lift or drop your drivetrain 3". the other thing to do is shorten your intermediate shaft and change the slip yoke end coming from the tranny.  The kick tranny uses a bigger slip yoke than the samurai one so the kick driveshaft yoke end will have to be put in place.

for technical stuff on the subject there's a write up on it

http://www.off-road.com/suzuki/tech/2wd1600.htm

definitely a big improvement from the wimpy sammi tranny but even better, I think personally, is the 4wd kick tranny/tcase to a sammi case, and go dual tranfers!

so you're saying that the 1.3 head (with int/exh and dizzy) will work on a 1.6, but is it better to finda 1.6 8v head?  And what years 1.6's will accept the 1.3 head setup?

yes it will work.  Is it better to use the 1.6 head? depends.  if you wanna use the 1.6 head only and bolt on all the sammi intake and exhaust, disty etc then your just making more work for yourself especially if you had all the EFI stuff there.

the 1.6 head will have better high end horses and a snappier throttle response than using the 1.3 head  but not much more (the 1.3 intake is port matched to the 1.3 head intake ports and they are smaller) and you also  have to put an electric fuel pump in ( no provisions for mechanical pump on the 1.6)

if you had the EFI all there on the 1.6 head with the harness and ECU it would be easier to wire that all in rather than all the mechanical, but that's me personally.  and you just can't beat EFI.  oh and the fuel pump, don't forget the fuel pump

as for what year 1.6L's will fit the 1.3 head, all of em do

in theory, i should gain some low end torque by using the 1.3 head on the 1.6 block. the years i am experimenting with are: 92 sami 1.3 head and a 96 1.6 formerly 16 valve block. today, when i dropped the block off to the machine shop to be miked and vatted i set a 1.3 head gasket on the block deck and the holes lined up perfectly. i would assume all years would be the same bolt, oil, and coolant passsages between block and head.

I just read that your using a 92 1.3 head. that means your running EFI?  if so I heard that the 1.3 comp may not be sufficient to compensating the air fuel mix to the bigger displacement but I may be wrong. the other thing is that the in tank fuel pump may need to be swapped out for 1.6 pump

when i got this engine, it was a complete running engine with 130 K on it, and i have the EFI unit, all hoses, even the wiring harness INTACT (underdash and underhood) from the tracker, but there was no computer or place to plug one into the harness. it's bad enough i have a computer at home, i don't want one on my car. when they work right, they are great. and when they don't, you kick yourself in the ass for not staying with something mechanical you can tinker and fudge with and you know you will have it running again.

I always install larger exhaust valves in the 1.3 head and port to match.

Any good machine shop shoud vbe able to grind the stock seats to fit the valves.