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2000 Tracker Day Time Running Lights
« on: April 15, 2007, 09:43:27 AM »
I moved this from the Suzuki Forum in hopes of getting some answers.  Is there anyway to turn these off?  If not, is there a way to make a switch to turn them off and on?  Some mentioned a fuse.  Couldn't find one.  One person mentioned unplugging the sensor on the dash.  Did that .....but it did not work.  Any help would be appreciated. 

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Jeff
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Re: 2000 Tracker Day Time Running Lights
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2007, 03:34:48 PM »
One person mentioned unplugging the sensor on the dash.  Did that .....but it did not work.  Any help would be appreciated. 

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Jeff

Yeah, It's my mistake. The dash's sensor is for the automatique light. But why you want to shut your headlight off?

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Re: 2000 Tracker Day Time Running Lights
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2007, 08:17:08 PM »
One, they will go through head lights alot quicker.  Two, and more important, when I go hunting, I do not like the head lights on.  Any body got any ideas?

Jeff
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Re: 2000 Tracker Day Time Running Lights
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2007, 11:29:06 PM »
Here is how I did it, exactly.  I took copious notes, as I know it bothers other folks, too.  DRL's suck when you're pulling into/away from a star party (astronomy).  It takes as long to read as it does to do it, but tweaking things like this can be ultra-dangerous in any modern vehicle.

As posted on the Yahoo! Groups suzukigrandvitara board back in Sept. 1999.

I know there are a few people on the board who, like me, truly
dislike the daytime running lamps. Here's how to extinguish them
without any tools or permanent, harmful, modifications:

Reach up past the right side of the steering column, under the dash.
About even with the bottom of the A/C controls, between the column
and the center radio-A/C stack, you'll feel two rectangular boxes,
each slightly smaller than a cassette tape box. One is oriented so
it is taller than it is deep. This is likely the first one you'll
feel, it has a connector coming out of the bottom. This one isn't
the evil DRL relay.

Move your hand slightly to the left and forward towards the
firewall, go up just a bit more, and you'll find a relay box which
is flatter and oriented to be longer front-to-back. This is it!! On
the bottom is a connector. The connector, a 9-pin, has release
buttons on it's side, like most push-in multiple-pin connectors.
Push in the release levers gently, and pull down to remove. Let it
dangle, should you ever want to reconnect (yeah, right).

Get in, start the engine, notice, no DRL's. Celebrate appropriately.
Think about how much longer your headlight bulbs will last. Enjoy no
longer being a nuicance to others or standing out in a pack of fast-
moving vehicles. ;-)

There is one side effect of your procedure though. Now when you pull
the parking brake, the brake light on the dash board does not
illuminate.

To correct this tie pins 3 and 8 together on the connector you just
pulled out. Here is a diagram of the connector viewed from the
front, with the wires coming out from the back:

[1][2]___[3][4]
[5][6][7][8][9]

For your information the following is a summary of each pin's
function (as best as I can interpet from the wiring diagram (Suzuki
PN 99512-65D00-33E):)

[1] - When grounded turns lights on. If the dimmer/passing switch is
in the lo position, then the low beams will come on, if the switch
is in the hi position, then the high beams will come on. No other
lights are affected by grounding this pin, and it works irregardless
of the ignition being turned on or not. In fact this pin is tied
directly to the ground side of the headlights.
[2] - Not connected.
[3] - This pin is grounded when the parking brake is applied.
[4] - This senses weather the engine is running or not by being tied
to the generator. If the engine is running, then 12 Volts appears at
this pin, otherwise with the engine off, it is at 0 Volts. Note
these voltages are measured with the connector removed from the DRL
controller.
[5] - Tied directly to the 20A IG Meter fuse. So this is always at
12 Volts.
[6] - Not connected.
[7] - Tied directly to ground.
[8] - Tied to the brake light in dash. The other side of the brake
light is tied to the 20A IG Meter fuse. Grounding this pin, which is
what happens when the parking brake is applied, turns the brake
light on.
[9] - This pin goes to the optional fog light connector. It is
grounded when the headlights are on. I'm not too clear on exactly
how it works yet.

Below is the color of each wire (Base color/Stripe color):

[1] - Red/White
[3] - Violet/White
[4] - White/Red
[5] - Black/White
[7] - Black
[8] - Violet
[9] - Gray/Black

Note, you could probably turn the DRL off by removing the wire
leading to pin [1] however, I found it easier to remove the
connector and rig a wire with a tab on each end and stuff it into
the connector. This should make re-assembly a bit easier as well.

Edit:  I found a bent paperclip works better than a wire with connectors
on it.  It'll never fall out, and if you're careful in bending the paperclip, it
won't likely ever touch anything, either.

Oh, and yes if you want to turn the DRL back on, then simply turn
your light switch (on the steering column) two clicks forward. :)

All of this is based on up to the 2001 model year, though it likely
works on all of the 2nd generation GV's.
« Last Edit: April 15, 2007, 11:33:02 PM by mckellyb »
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Re: 2000 Tracker Day Time Running Lights
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2007, 07:07:15 PM »
mckellyb thank you very much for the info I will attempt this procedure tomorrow.  I will let you know how things turn out.  Looking forward to "Celebrating Appropriately"

Jeff
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greatwhite

Re: 2000 Tracker Day Time Running Lights
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2007, 05:57:20 AM »
mckellyb,

A great big thanks to you!  I have posted this same ? here before, with no positive results.  I will be trying this same tip out today.  Thanks, and my 99 Grand Vitara thanks you as well.

greatwhite

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sevenones12

Re: 2000 Tracker Day Time Running Lights
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2007, 09:29:37 PM »
how'd the operation go guys? i want to try, but I'm vervous, if I get verification from you two, I'm for sure doing it.

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Re: 2000 Tracker Day Time Running Lights
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2007, 06:13:48 PM »
I did it and it worked perfectly. I will add that this is much easier to do if you remove the panel below the steering column. It is only attached by 3 screws. This way you can see the plug that you are working on. The box you unplug it from is silver.
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Re: 2000 Tracker Day Time Running Lights
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2007, 08:26:54 PM »
on my older trackers I just pull the park brake up one click and that shuts off the DRL, does that not work on the newer ones?
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zukiowa

Re: 2000 Tracker Day Time Running Lights
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2007, 10:41:18 AM »
yeah it works thats what I do when I'm working nights to not blind the neighbors but i still had to unplug the auto regular lights cuz once they turn on they dont reset until the key is shut off

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sanco

Re: 2000 Tracker Day Time Running Lights
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2007, 01:18:39 PM »
hey guys i know this might be a little late and old post but just thought id give some pics of exactly what everyone is talking about



as you can see the cable is disconected from the silver box, and you can see the steering column right next to it.  when you do this you will still have autolights, to disable that too you need to just remove the connector from the sensor on the right side of the dash



this whole job takes less than 5 minutes and its super easy to do!!!

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sanco

Re: 2000 Tracker Day Time Running Lights
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2007, 01:20:31 PM »
o and one more thing, depending on what GV you have the box might also be black instead of silver!!! but location and everything else is the same

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Re: 2000 Tracker Day Time Running Lights
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2008, 06:59:51 PM »
I unplugged this connector and it took care of my day time driving lites,but know my inside lites over head will not come on.So is there something else I need to jump on the connector to make them work?
« Last Edit: October 23, 2008, 07:03:52 PM by hotdog »

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Re: 2000 Tracker Day Time Running Lights
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2008, 09:31:16 AM »
I plugged the connector back in today and the over head lites started working again.So they have to be routed through this box. Know it's unplug it and do away with the driving lites and I don't have over head lites when I open my door,or leave it plugged in so I have over head lites and put up with the driving lites. Thanks for any help.

Also my Tracker is a 99 model.

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Re: 2000 Tracker Day Time Running Lights
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2008, 07:30:25 AM »
According to the wiring diagram, your experience does not make sense.  The only common factor between the overhead lamps and the DRL controller is that they use the same grounding points.

The only explanation I can come up with is that the designers did something stupid, and routed the overhead lamps grounds thru the DRL Controller.  If that's right, you can open up the lamps switch and ground the terminal to which the black wire is connected to overcome the issue.

An alternative explanation could be that you have disconnected at the wrong place, but the above cure should still work.
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