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Mr. Hagen can you ....
« on: February 05, 2007, 06:04:41 PM »
detail the steps that you took from complete stock to the last rebuild of the orange rig and what you would do different or maybe skip next time.

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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2007, 07:06:29 PM »
To detail that build would take days of typing at my pace. I have thought long and hard about building another street /offroad machine but I just dont have the time or the money.

I would build it in prerunner styling. It would involve a Calmini 2 inch suspension, frame chop in the front to lift an additional 5 inches and a custom 4 link rear with a welded XL7 rear axle. Severe fender trimming to clear 35s.

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Re: Mr. Hagen can you ....
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2007, 08:32:48 AM »
...with a welded XL7 rear axle...
Just out of curiosity, why the XL7 Axle??

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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2007, 01:37:37 PM »
...with a welded XL7 rear axle...
Just out of curiosity, why the XL7 Axle??

28 spline and almost a 9 inch ring gear. I think it would be a good cheap swap. I think that I could make the e brake work and I would like to keep it as Suzuki as possible. We are looking into getting one to play with in the Dark Star.

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Re: Mr. Hagen can you ....
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2007, 09:08:36 AM »
hey what would you do differently to make it specifically a pre runner instead of the orange star setup. I guess it would have to be a jumper and high speed setup .

would you do a setup like chos fabrications xterra new control arm and coil over setup?
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Re: Mr. Hagen can you ....
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2007, 02:46:37 PM »
hey what would you do differently to make it specifically a pre runner instead of the orange star setup. I guess it would have to be a jumper and high speed setup .

would you do a setup like chos fabrications xterra new control arm and coil over setup?

Mainly I would lighten it a ton by building tube bumpers and cutting inner fenders out and I would trim fenders more and less lift.

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Re: Mr. Hagen can you ....
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2007, 12:43:35 AM »
Hi Mike,

So do you sort of miss having a street rig? I know I miss seeing your old rig popping up from time to time - great rig that  >:D

I have been knocking around a whole pile of options myself and have settled on running just 33's on my street rig - this way I do not have any major gearing issues or drive train strength issues. I have really enjoyed following your builds over the years and I sorta liked your rig best when it ran 33's way back when, but I understand the motivation behind your enhancements - oh god do I understand ( someone shoot me please  ::) ).
I am going to fit my 37's on a trail only rig - this way highway gearing isn't a problem. I will be able to keep it nice and light too by dumping all the crap not needed - all BUT the heater because it gets cold in winter and I am soft LOL. Basically a motor, box , t case, axles, somewhere to sit and something to link it all up and have some steering and brakes when finished - just the basics.

I like what you said about keeping it low ( not too much lift ), I am heading this way myself. We do a lot of off camber stuff over here and big lifts just don't cut it  ;) . Years of my rigs having occasional wee rests on their sides have convinced me that maybe I had over done things a little  :o .

All the best and keep up the good work  ;D

ZeusZuki  8)
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Re: Mr. Hagen can you ....
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2007, 02:57:43 PM »
Hi Mike,
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So do you sort of miss having a street rig?

ZeusZuki  8)

I very much miss having a street rig. I have been doing some thinking and we may be adding a new zuk to the family. ::) It will be something very streetable and for sure capable.

Mike
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Re: Mr. Hagen can you ....
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2007, 11:12:27 AM »
i have to admit I do like th 37's or 39's but for a dd I would not go more than 33's to many people have told me that they cannot use 5th gear when on 33's so if I every were to go big dd that would be my max but i kinda like the 31's 3 inch suspension and a very clean trimming job almost where is looks stock but not. i thinks insteat of my 235's i would have liked 31's but the street driving with BFM you can see a difference in acceleration and I still drive like an ass at times so really I need a barn and a forest behind me so I can have 2 trucks. I do like the prerunner winch bumpers and a tire carrier in the rear passenger section look and my be a fender flaring job for the tires.....that would look sweet. has anyone done a flat fender style job on a zuke front end?
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Re: Mr. Hagen can you ....
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2007, 06:33:45 PM »
I am with you on the 37 thing bus driver - looks freak'n awesome but way too many logistical issues and that is why I am sticking to no larger than 33's. I will not have as many issues on my rig though because it is a V6 and they handle the larger rubber no problems  ;D

I am reserving my 37's to my trail only rig and will not be tempted otherwise. Although it is hard to resist  ;)

I went out with a buddy of mine today and we crawled up a creek - rough stuff for sure. I can not wait to get my trail rig up and running again  >:D

ZeusZuki  8)
1600 Escudo / Kick, beam front, coils all round, 37 MTR's, 97" wheelbase, locked fr & rr,twin stick, front stock ratio, Calmini 5.14 t box rear, Warn XD9000i winch, blah blah!

2.0 V6 auto, Calmini 3" kit, 33" jandles, LT struts, blah blah

2.5 V6 man GV, Calmini 2.5" kit, 235/85x16 jandle

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Re: Mr. Hagen can you ....
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2007, 07:21:23 PM »
i can 'nt wait till i get a V-6 ,      the posibilities,          stan

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Re: Mr. Hagen can you ....
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2007, 12:28:27 PM »
without welding and cutting how much can you do to a GV on the suspension side of things I am looking at replacing my kick with a 5spd GV and I want essentionally 31's on a 3 inch lift how would i do this on a budget but not cheaping out. I would rather not use spacers as I want as much useable suspension as possible.
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Re: Mr. Hagen can you ....
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2007, 09:23:17 PM »
without welding and cutting how much can you do to a GV on the suspension side of things I am looking at replacing my kick with a 5spd GV and I want essentionally 31's on a 3 inch lift how would i do this on a budget but not cheaping out. I would rather not use spacers as I want as much useable suspension as possible.

    I will have to get back to you on the GV questions. Honestly, Im not exactly sure cause I dont own a GV...yet.  Also, I would include plenty of cutting and welding. >:D

Mike
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Re: Mr. Hagen can you ....
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2007, 01:49:22 PM »
hey Zues how did you do you  3inch and what does it look like now could you pm me a picture and maybe more details ....that is the vehicle I am replacing mine with and I wuould like to know the comparisons between the 2 door and the GVb4 and after the mods

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Re: Mr. Hagen can you ....
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2007, 10:48:58 PM »
bus driver,

I took the easy route and fitted Calmini kits to both my vehicles. I actually helped Calmini develop a 3" lift kit for the 2.0 V6 gen 1 body vehicles.

http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=15297.0

http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=12714.0

http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=13006.0

This lot should get you going  :)

ZeusZuki  8)
1600 Escudo / Kick, beam front, coils all round, 37 MTR's, 97" wheelbase, locked fr & rr,twin stick, front stock ratio, Calmini 5.14 t box rear, Warn XD9000i winch, blah blah!

2.0 V6 auto, Calmini 3" kit, 33" jandles, LT struts, blah blah

2.5 V6 man GV, Calmini 2.5" kit, 235/85x16 jandle