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Offline wezzlegod

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diff gearing
« on: January 26, 2005, 11:52:49 AM »
 i was reading a the banter about diff and some questions poped up in my head. i have a 89 1.6 sidekick 2 door 5 speed    
whats the stock pinion gear raitio? iwant to put 32s or 33s if posible seeming 33s are easer to get. im cutting my finders i know what pinion gears are best for these tires. i have lockers if that can be a facter. thanks wayne ??? ;D
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Re: diff gearing
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2005, 01:44:11 PM »
5:625 is stock
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Re: diff gearing
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2005, 01:50:05 PM »
I thought 5.62:1 was only used in the
1.3L SideKick, a 1.6L should have 5.125:1
gears, I do know that my Auto 89' has 4.62s

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Re: diff gearing
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2005, 05:41:38 PM »
you need some 5.83's   8)
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Re: diff gearing
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2005, 05:45:31 PM »
dont we wish they were 5.62 ....  Im pretty sure it will be 5.12 .  as well .

I run 33s and my high range takes some getting used to but not to bad , i run the 4:24 t case gears so its great in low
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Re: diff gearing
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2005, 11:12:09 PM »
The 1.6 is a 5.12 stock R & P. If you are going to go to 33's, you will be able to get arounf sluggish on the stock R & P but it will be like driving around stock without using 1 st gear to take off. It will realy suck off road though unless you do a t-case reduction. If you go with the 5.83's you will be almost back to stock running 32's-33's.

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Re: diff gearing
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2005, 12:44:27 AM »
I have the 5.83's, and with Goodyear Wrangler MT/R 31 X 10.50's, inflated to 23 pounds, the speedo is within 0.5 MPH at 60 MPH.  I live at 9,000 feet elevation, so the 96 hp you get at sea level in a 1.6/16 turns into about 80 hp - MAYBE - so I have to run it up to at least 5,500 RPM before shifting, and I don't run it lower than about 2,700 RPM or it lugs down too much.

So - you have a 1.6/8 valve, rated at 80 hp (at seal level).  You're gonna have some issues with acceleration on 32's or 33's, even with the 5.83's.

It's survivable, just annoying.
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Re: diff gearing
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2005, 04:17:31 AM »

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I have the 5.83's, and with Goodyear Wrangler MT/R 31 X 10.50's, inflated to 23 pounds, the speedo is within 0.5 MPH at 60 MPH.  I live at 9,000 feet elevation, so the 96 hp you get at sea level in a 1.6/16 turns into about 80 hp - MAYBE - so I have to run it up to at least 5,500 RPM before shifting, and I don't run it lower than about 2,700 RPM or it lugs down too much.

So - you have a 1.6/8 valve, rated at 80 hp (at seal level).  You're gonna have some issues with acceleration on 32's or 33's, even with the 5.83's.

It's survivable, just annoying.


So your saying I'll have fun with 33's driving across Clolrado with an 8V with 200K+ miles on it ;D How high will I get on I 70 heading to Moab? Will I be able to stay close to the speedlimit in the mountains? I can hold 70-75 in Tennessee.

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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2005, 04:34:47 AM »
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So your saying I'll have fun with 33's driving across Clolrado with an 8V with 200K+ miles on it ;D How high will I get on I 70 heading to Moab?


You'll be driving right past my place!

You will be hating it, from the Morrison exit, to Genesee, then up Floyd Hill, then from Idaho Springs to the Tunnel.  The tunnel is just over 11,000 feet.

Oh, yeah, Vail Pass is gonna be fun, too.

BUT - you won't be the ONLY rig running 25-30 MPH on that stretch of interstate!
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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2005, 04:41:57 AM »
25-30 :o That's down to 2nd gear :o I was thinking slow would be 45 at high elevations. Oh well, I hope the scenery is good in those areas ;D When are you leaving? I am going to try and get there late Saturday and stay through wed-thursday depending on how long it takes to get there (gotta be home Sat night).

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Re: diff gearing
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2005, 05:17:16 AM »
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25-30 :o That's down to 2nd gear :o I was thinking slow would be 45 at high elevations.
When are you leaving? I am going to try and get there late Saturday and stay through wed-thursday depending on how long it takes to get there (gotta be home Sat night).


Well in my 2-door, on 31's with a 16 valve, I'm in 3rd gear on the steep parts, usually hitting the tunnel at 45, depending on traffic.

I'll be trailering the Gnewt behind the Dakota, probably early Saturday morning.
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Re: diff gearing
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2005, 07:46:25 AM »
Drove a carburated toyota tercel through the tunnel.  35 in third gear was all she would give.  I think you will do a little better since you are fuel injected.

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Re: diff gearing
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2005, 11:05:06 AM »
thanks for the advice everyone. i try 32s with 5.8?? have to start saving thay are exspensive when your poor.
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Re: diff gearing
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2005, 12:07:14 PM »
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so I have to run it up to at least 5,500 RPM before shifting, and I don't run it lower than about 2,700 RPM or it lugs down too much.

wow!  i have the same setup and shift at 3000 to 3500 on the hwy.  i never get over 5k, i think my lil 4 banger would pop!! :o
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Re: diff gearing
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2005, 12:47:55 AM »
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wow!  i have the same setup and shift at 3000 to 3500 on the hwy.  i never get over 5k, i think my lil 4 banger would pop!! :o


No, really, your 4-banger won't pop!
Must be nice to be down in thick air, where your engine gives you some horsepower!  Oh, and flat ground helps too.

When I go down to Denver, I still have to shift at 5,000 on the highway, but running 65 is no problem.
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