thats what im dooing on my other track,only using samy trans ,i think i may have gone too low with gearing, are 5.71s gona kill my highway speeds with 4to1 t/case gears?
annyone?

5.71's and a Sammi t-case with 4:1 gears and 35's = high rpm and low speed in high range

just something to keep in mind, the higher the gear ratio in your diff, the weaker the ring gear will be,

I ran 5.13 kick fronts in my sammi with a locker in the rear and only got 500k before grenading the ring gear. and only got like 2 trail runs in.

now I run the 5.13's from the rear and seem to be running good. but I wouldn't trust it to any higher ratio unless I upgrade to toy axles

im running toy axles,

Okay, but for once (I couldn't find it in the search), explain to me how I'd calculate the needed/ accomplished gear ratio's. Whith a formula or something. Does anyone have such thing? Maybe even the stock ratio'a of all 5 gears in a sidekick/tracker/(european) Vitara thing. And as 3rd question the ratio'a of the 4.10/4.16/4.13/samurai transfer cases?
I know it's a lot questions but I really wanna know because of my probable set-up.....  :-/

I ran 5.13 kick fronts in my sammi with a locker in the rear and only got 500k before grenading the ring gear. and only got like 2 trail runs in.

if you got 500k with that set-up I wouldnt complain about grenading the ring gear

That's like about 300-350 miles
not too good

lol, yup I think I was halfway through my second tank of gas from the time I got them installed that the ring gear decided to grenade

500 kliks, not 500,000

I would say that you didn't set up the diff
right, that's about the only way to destroy
a R and P set, even set up poorly you should
get several thousand miles before failure.

Of coarse I wasn't there to see the setup
so I shouldn't comment on it being right
or wrong, this is just an experience baised
statement, I nuked a set of R and P in an
Audi I had, that one required shims to set
up, and the |removethispart|@$$ wipes at the machine shop
screwed up the thickness I requested, I put
it together anyway and it lived 5 or 6 months

I never saw the nuked set, but it began to whine,
louder and louder day by day, until one day it
went in grand style, chunk bang clunk vroom
free reving engine    nuked gear set

Wild

I never saw the nuked set, but it began to whine,
louder and louder day by day, until one day it
went in grand style, chunk bang clunk vroom
free reving engine    nuked gear set

Wild

I'd say that this is how most R & P sets go bye, bye.

~Nate

(at least thats how 2 of ours went)

 ???So is anyone running dual cases in a Sidetrack? It seems easy enough to add a Sammy case after the stock case. Might be a bit long for a two door but a 4door would be ok. Drive angles would be funky but a cv may be a cure. Any info here?

Yup.
Works great.
vvvvv from OTT's website vvvv

vvvvv from our work bench vvvv

Sticks inside cab;

From underneath;

???So is anyone running dual cases in a Sidetrack? It seems easy enough to add a Sammy case after the stock case. Might be a bit long for a two door but a 4door would be ok. Drive angles would be funky but a cv may be a cure. Any info here?

Yup.

http://www.ottindustries.com/kicker3.htm

???So is anyone running dual cases in a Sidetrack? It seems easy enough to add a Sammy case after the stock case. Might be a bit long for a two door but a 4door would be ok. Drive angles would be funky but a cv may be a cure. Any info here?

Shouldn't be to long for a 2door.  They are made for 2dr sammies.

~Nate

Now do you keep hi and lo range in BOTH cases? I thought I saw in one of the links to another page that one case was locked in lo. If I am understanding this right, this would give you street gears in hi-hi, and rock gears in lo-lo with bigger tires. am I right?

You should be able to run Hi or low in the ftont case, than 2hi, 4hi , 4low in the rear case giving you many combinations of gearing 2 and 4wd.

Zig