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the_dude

Re: On board air tanks
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2005, 06:06:52 AM »
I wouldn't be worried about the bumper full of air. I don't think it's enough pressure to really do any damage.

Somebody at my work suggested PVC pipe as an air resevoir.  I was a little sketch about it but I looked up the specs on PVC pipe and a piece of 6" Schedule 80 PVC pipe has a pressure rating of 280 psi that's almost double what most of us would be using at say 100 to 140 psi..  So there has to be a reason nobody is using PVC pipe.. Is it the fittings that are a concern? I would think PVC would be really easy to work with. Think of all those spud guns we built as kids. Creating an explosion in a piece of 4" PVC enough to shoot a potato for 300 yards has got to be serious pressure...

Just some food for thought here's a link to the PVC chart.

http://www.freedomplastics.com/pdfs/Sell%20Sheet_Schedule40-80%20PVC%20Pipe.pdf


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the_dude

Re: On board air tanks
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2005, 10:45:04 AM »
Did some more searching and found this site where a guy found a place that sells used air tanks.

Specialty Truck Parts in San Jose.. Here is the link to his article.

http://www.huv.com/jon/jeep/Air/tank.html

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Offline SnoFalls

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Re: On board air tanks
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2005, 10:47:22 AM »
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ISomebody at my work suggested PVC pipe as an air resevoir.  

Be careful with PVC under pressure ... it will shatter (like glass) when it let's go (i.e. boom)
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Re: On board air tanks
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2005, 11:06:34 AM »
PVC also breaks easy when it's cold. but the schedule 80 IS a lot better then sched 40.  
A tip for anyone looking for onboard air storage. Hit a welding shop!!!! Buy or lease a small co2 or nitrogen tank and spend the $80-100 for a decent regulator. That gives you from 2600-4500 psi to start with, you can regulate it down as far as you need for an air locker, plus co2 expands as it's released. IIRC a 2' tall tank hold something like 400 cubic feet of co2 |removethispart|@ 2600 psi. (not sure of the exact #, but it's a LOT more then most people think!!) Also runs air tools all day too!
An added benefit if you get a real good regulator, (few hundred $$) is if there is a fire, you can run the tank wide open. Co2 is GREAT on class b-c fires!! )liquids, gases and electric)
Plus it can cool your "after run beverages" too! ;D

Anyone know any drawback to using nitrogen for this?
« Last Edit: February 01, 2005, 11:08:22 AM by phoenix827 »

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the_dude

Re: On board air tanks
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2005, 11:28:55 AM »
I'm starting to agree on the PVC thing. I have seen some threads on other sites with the BOOM warning..

Even though it's rated at high PSI it's still not recommended by the manufacturers to pressurize it.




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Re: On board air tanks
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2005, 12:48:52 AM »
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I'm starting to agree on the PVC thing. I have seen some threads on other sites with the BOOM warning..

Even though it's rated at high PSI it's still not recommended by the manufacturers to pressurize it.





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Re: On board air tanks
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2005, 12:51:34 AM »
i found CO2 used to ruin seal as its so cold and makes them brittle
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