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Re: Want to tweak a couple more inches from calmini 3+3.
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2006, 10:20:27 AM »
Quote from: zukisidekick on May 02, 2006, 07:12:49 PM
Shredder,

Do you have any pics of the calmini lift and the coil spacers installed?  I'm curious to see what mine will end up looking like.....

-Zukisidekick


Here are a few.





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Re: Want to tweak a couple more inches from calmini 3+3.
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2006, 03:34:01 PM »
Quote from: barcus on May 03, 2006, 06:11:38 AM
Quote from: Quaddawg on May 03, 2006, 05:11:34 AM
Quote from: Mikerpm4x4 on May 02, 2006, 11:20:32 PM
I would cut the frame at the horn like I did in the rockstar artical. Instead of moving it forward just cut and drop it 2 inches, and replate the sides.

Mike


I have really been thinking hard about this move..


me too. anyone got pics? i coudnt find one in the rockstar article.

has someone built a tamer version of this?
http://www.izook.com/tech/tracker/lift/tracker9inch.htm



Mike Whitfield(Whitfield) based his 4-door build on this as well as the S10 IFS drop. He is a member here, but I'm sure he frequents Zuwharrie BBS more. He recently posted a big thread with lots of pictures of his build, but I'm with Mikerpm4x4 on this, I'd just chop and lower the frame an extra 2" as he said, and I think you'd need to lift the engine the same to make up the difference.

Here's Whitfield's thread on Zuwharrie BBS
http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,38154.0.html

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Re: Want to tweak a couple more inches from calmini 3+3.
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2006, 06:23:52 PM »
Shredder,

That is a well built, and great looking rig!  Your running the boondox 1.5" spacers right?  I have 2" Jeep TJ spacers in mine...Hopefully, it won't give me too much lift that stresses the CV's...I'll let you guys know on Wednesday, when the kit arrives from Calstiffy....I really want that Shrockworks bumper in the front end....I'm thinking shrockworks front end, trail tough rear bumper, and shrock sliders.....Now, if only I could hit the lottery, I'd be set! LOL

Again, nice work on your rig Shredder! 


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Re: Want to tweak a couple more inches from calmini 3+3.
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2006, 08:13:52 PM »
Thanks on the compliment. You might want to let your Calmini springs settle in a little before you add your spring spacers to the mix. When I first installed my Calmini kit I had 4.5" of lift. It took several wheeling trips to break in the springs until they rested at 3" of lift.

And, yes, mine has the 1.5" Boondox spacers all around and their 3" springs in front. I like the ride better that way. Still run the Calmini rear springs though.
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Re: Want to tweak a couple more inches from calmini 3+3.
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2006, 09:12:11 PM »
finally got a donor. im planning a 2" lift so will probably cut the donor chassis and weld it under my existing. dont want to cut my chassis just yet hehe. has anyone tried or at least attempted this? just want to know the pros and cons.

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Re: Want to tweak a couple more inches from calmini 3+3.
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2006, 09:35:30 PM »
I believe that a member named Littletruck on here did something similar but I haven't been able to find his write up, maybe someone here knows him and could get the info?
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Re: Want to tweak a couple more inches from calmini 3+3.
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2006, 11:37:04 PM »
I think it would be really awesome to make suspension arms that are even bigger than calmini and drop the axle more than calmini's brackets do which I heard isn't that hard (the axle drop brackets that is).

I think it would be much easier to do what shredder did and just add the spacers to it, they are only $100 and they are good ones (they better be cause I ordered some last night)  personally, I would drop the axle more and add the spacers and call it good. when you run tires that big on those axles they might not be too happy about it. I believe I saw you said that you've broken the front end a few times. a toyota CV swap would probably be a good idea with 35's. I don't know how much abuse the back end can take but that axle isn't beefy so I'd look into a different rear axle in case it does break

good luck with your project, it already looks good and I see it getting much better in the future
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Re: Want to tweak a couple more inches from calmini 3+3.
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2006, 01:28:33 AM »
Maroon Monsoon.

i already did the toyota axle swap. 3rd member and all.  ;D and with the toy 5.71 R&Ps i think it should be good enough to handle 35s.

IMO the thing with spacers is that you would be straining the CVs. with this mod you get to retain the optimum CV angle.

Attn Littletruck. kindly pls post some pics. thanks...
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Re: Want to tweak a couple more inches from calmini 3+3.
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2006, 05:50:05 PM »
Quote from: barcus on June 12, 2006, 01:28:33 AM
Maroon Monsoon.

i already did the toyota axle swap. 3rd member and all.  ;D and with the toy 5.71 R&Ps i think it should be good enough to handle 35s.

IMO the thing with spacers is that you would be straining the CVs. with this mod you get to retain the optimum CV angle.

Attn Littletruck. kindly pls post some pics. thanks...

nice that you got the yota swap up front. I bet that's really nice. I was thinking to drop the axle more with the spacers instead of all that frame work. just my opinion on that one but that would be pretty cool to have all that work into it. the frame work would be one more huge thing to set it apart from the crowd
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Re: Want to tweak a couple more inches from calmini 3+3.
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2006, 05:09:22 AM »
Quote from: Maroon Monsoon on June 12, 2006, 05:50:05 PM
nice I was thinking to drop the axle more with the spacers instead of all that frame work. just my opinion on that one but that would be pretty cool to have all that work into it. the frame work would be one more huge thing to set it apart from the crowd

The Calmini kit drops the diff as far as is practical, any further would mean cutting and lowering the crossmember.
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Re: Want to tweak a couple more inches from calmini 3+3.
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2006, 07:15:29 AM »
Quote from: Rhinoman on June 13, 2006, 05:09:22 AM
Quote from: Maroon Monsoon on June 12, 2006, 05:50:05 PM
nice I The Calmini kit drops the diff as far as is practical, any further would mean cutting and lowering the crossmember.

some guy on here with a 2 door hard top modified his calmini drop brackets by removing the front breackets and pulling the axle down to where the CV's sit nice. Apearently the back one has a flexible bushing or something. once he had it like that I believe he madecardboard templates of new brackets and made them up out of steel. If I remember right that's what he said, if i find the thread I'll post the link for you

I don't think he did any cross memeber modifying.
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Re: Want to tweak a couple more inches from calmini 3+3.
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2006, 03:24:58 PM »
Quote from: barcus on June 11, 2006, 09:12:11 PM
finally got a donor. im planning a 2" lift so will probably cut the donor chassis and weld it under my existing. dont want to cut my chassis just yet hehe. has anyone tried or at least attempted this? just want to know the pros and cons.



Hahaha...you look very pensive there..."do I really want to get into this?"

Whitfield over on www.Zuwharrie.com has a whole bunch of info on doing this.  He made himself a 4" lift using a similar method and a friend of his did literally weld a section of another frame to the front of his Tracker.  Lotsa info over there for you.
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Re: Want to tweak a couple more inches from calmini 3+3.
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2006, 06:15:25 PM »
dont know if its worth the trouble. i read whitfield's thread. he only used the donnor chassis as a jig to measure and fab his lift. im thinking that it would be simpler to just weld the donnor right under my main chassis but m still having reservations... really hope that someone can post some pics of this type of lift... if ever there was one.  ???
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Re: Want to tweak a couple more inches from calmini 3+3.
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2006, 03:35:53 AM »
Whitfield's buddy did exactly that.  You might ask him if the guy would be interested in talking about it. ???
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Re: Want to tweak a couple more inches from calmini 3+3.
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2006, 04:57:39 AM »
Quote from: Maroon Monsoon on June 13, 2006, 07:15:29 AM

some guy on here with a 2 door hard top modified his calmini drop brackets by removing the front breackets and pulling the axle down to where the CV's sit nice. Apearently the back one has a flexible bushing or something. once he had it like that I believe he madecardboard templates of new brackets and made them up out of steel. If I remember right that's what he said, if i find the thread I'll post the link for you

I don't think he did any cross memeber modifying.


I think one of the Aussies made his own brackets but I don't believe he had the Calmini kit. The problem is that the diff lowering is mainly achieved by rotating the housing. The rear mount can only be lowered around 3/4" . You can only go so far before the third is pointing up too far and the CV angle starts to increase again.
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