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Boggers: Fatties or Skinnies?
« on: February 25, 2005, 01:41:41 AM »
My next tire is definately gonna be a Bogger, but I'm still unsure on the size... I'm thinking I'll get a narrow tire (35x10.50 or 38x11), but I'm not sure. Which is better on lighter rigs in your opinion? Narrow or wide tires?
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Re: Boggers: Fatties or Skinnies?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2005, 01:46:58 AM »
it all depends on what you do most with them.    rocks,ect...= go wide       deep soupy muud,ect...= skinny.  
that has always been my logic behind tars
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Re: Boggers: Fatties or Skinnies?
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2005, 01:48:00 AM »
My exact question.

If you think about it, at the same tire pressure, you're going to have the same number of square inches of rubber on the ground.  The only thing different will be the shape of your contact patch.  Would you do better with a shorter, wider contact patch, or a longer, narrower contact patch.

I'm thinking that for mud, shorter and wider would be better, and for rock crawling, longer, and narrower might be better.

EDIT:  And look - my thinking is exactly OPPOSITE of Jason's.  Oh well...
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Re: Boggers: Fatties or Skinnies?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2005, 01:49:34 AM »
Mud and loose stuff. No rocks unless I trailer it long distances :(

The reason I was wondering is that I figured wider tires are better for sand/gravel (I imagine, anyway) since they shouldn't dig down as easy...



Oh, and by fatties, I mean 12.50s, not 16"ers :)
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Re: Boggers: Fatties or Skinnies?
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2005, 02:37:50 AM »
the wider the better for mud per the V.P. of super swamper. mud down here in louisana often doesn't have a botom to it so ur best bet is to stay on top of it and with a lite rig that is much easier to do. i have run almost every swamper made and the bogger is the best purpose built mud tire out of the lot. with the IROC in close second maybe even a tie. boggers aren't road friendly they r a purpose built mud tire so if u r going to use ur tracker on the road u may want to consider another swamper. brian seems to swear by them. i don't know if he runns his tracker on the street, Did u say 38's. i've got to see those pics. i ran 31x13.5x15 when i went rockcrawling last summer and the did fine as far as carcusing on the rocks but i ran 5 psi.
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Re: Boggers: Fatties or Skinnies?
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2005, 02:55:56 AM »
Again i like the wide rubber :D they run fine on 8"rim and the side walls protect the rims from the rocks i had 10" rims bad choise bent bad on first trip out. and the 10" with 33 and 4 " back set will not clear the metal fenders on the out side of the tire  ??? but the 8" with a 3 3/4 backset work good  ;D and you get the full turning radious they just start to rubb the frame full cranked any less i think you start losing the the 4 1/4 rub a bit more but still not bad.
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Re: Boggers: Fatties or Skinnies?
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2005, 09:42:21 AM »
I drove my Sammy on 38" TSL's yeaterday, First time in a year...   It is hard to steer and unruley compared to my Kick on 34's.  The 34's on the sammy do much better too.  34's are much easier to drive, less rotating mass, greater contact pressure ect.  I have a set of 35x16-15 Boggers on a Sammy and I'd choose the 34x10-15 LTB's over everything but Swamp and red clay.
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Re: Boggers: Fatties or Skinnies?
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2005, 02:37:30 AM »
skinny for sure, my sami's sittin on 32" 7" wide pizza cutters  ;)  ... dout you could find a set like these though, they say " registered 1955 on the side hahaha... you would never be able to damage em though, there very heavy duty
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Re: Boggers: Fatties or Skinnies?
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2005, 05:06:14 AM »
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Mud and loose stuff. No rocks unless I trailer it long distances :(

The reason I was wondering is that I figured wider tires are better for sand/gravel (I imagine, anyway) since they shouldn't dig down as easy...



Oh, and by fatties, I mean 12.50s, not 16"ers :)


Yip, I've found that with going from 9.5 to 10.5 the trucklet gets a long the rivers better now and I know that my mates with much heavier rigs have no option but to run wide Tyres for gravel.

Muds a different story depending on weather it's deep mud where I prefer a skinny to dig down quickly and find the hard stuff or the hard greasy crap then I prefer a wide tyre to get as much grip as possible on the surface.
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Re: Boggers: Fatties or Skinnies?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2005, 11:45:39 AM »
I always say get the biggest wides tire you can possibly get.  the bigger and wider the least likely to sink in mud, more likely to get over rocks, though takes more power to spin them, but in 4low who cares, right?
Tall skinnies would just screw up your gearing on the highway even worse, I know mine sucks on the highway with 33s, sucked trying to get going from a red light.  with the 38s you'll compound the problem.  I do believe with boggers you have a 33x14.0 option, maybe a 35x14.5, the extra two inches, but I wouldnt go any bigger as you'll start breaking parts.  anyways, have a look
http://www.intercotire.com/html/tsl___bogger.htm
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Re: Boggers: Fatties or Skinnies?
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2005, 06:26:48 PM »
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I always say get the biggest wides tire you can possibly get.  the bigger and wider the least likely to sink in mud, more likely to get over rocks, though takes more power to spin them, but in 4low who cares, right?
Tall skinnies would just screw up your gearing on the highway even worse, I know mine sucks on the highway with 33s, sucked trying to get going from a red light.  with the 38s you'll compound the problem.  I do believe with boggers you have a 33x14.0 option, maybe a 35x14.5, the extra two inches, but I wouldnt go any bigger as you'll start breaking parts.  anyways, have a look
http://www.intercotire.com/html/tsl___bogger.htm

Don't worry, I'm not even thinking of running a 35" or taller Bogger with stocker stuff... I'm hoping the coarse-spline Land Cruiser axles I have will stand up to 35's... ;)

I'm leaning towards 35x14.50's right now. I just threw the 38.5x10.50's out there since they're one of the two 'skinny' boggers :)
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Re: Boggers: Fatties or Skinnies?
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2005, 01:29:08 AM »
my friend ran 35x14.50 on his tracker, said he wouldnt run any bigger then that ever again.  agter 33s, you start going through a lot of front wheel bearings
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Re: Boggers: Fatties or Skinnies?
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2005, 01:37:51 AM »
Have you ever run boggers on a tracker? I tried a freinds and hated them. I thought they looks cool as hell buy the tsls worked better in the mud for me.

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Re: Boggers: Fatties or Skinnies?
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2005, 07:28:21 AM »
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Have you ever run boggers on a tracker? I tried a freinds and hated them. I thought they looks cool as hell buy the tsls worked better in the mud for me.

Mike

That's the other option... are boggers really that bad on light vehicles? I see them on quite a few Sammies, it seems.
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Re: Boggers: Fatties or Skinnies?
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2005, 08:40:17 AM »
I personally dont like bias belted tires, too hard of a tire, doesnt bend around objects like a nice radial tire, especially with a trackers light weight.   have a look at dayton timberline MT
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