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Offline vitaradownunder

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Clicky Starter Motor
« on: January 07, 2004, 02:10:47 PM »
I have a starter motor the either just clicks and then starts after the 7 turn or it starts but the electric motor inside the Starter Motor is still going but the teeth are not engaged so there is grind noise just a high pitched Zizzzing noise.

What can I do.
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Re: Clicky Starter Motor
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2004, 03:11:48 PM »
Most any vendor has the clicky start fit.  It's vasically a 30amp relay.  You can do a search and find details on how to fix it yourself.

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Re: Clicky Starter Motor
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2004, 12:43:36 AM »
The clicking noise is a solenoid that's on top of your starter that engages the starter to the motor.  When you turn the key the solenoid pull on a lever and that pushes the starter gear into the flywheel.

When the solenoid is at full travel the back side of it hits a copper disk and conects the battery to the starter motor.  It then turn over the engine.

Two things cause the starter to click.  One is a dead/low battery.  The solenoid with operate, ingage the gear but when the motor try to pull power from the battery there's not enough voltage to hold in the solenoid.  So it snaps back (there's a spring holding the starter gear out of the flywheel).  So now there's voltage enough to pull the solenoid again.  This goes over and over so you get that "click, click, click...

The second is a bad flywheel.  If the teath of the starter doesn't go into the flywheel, then the copper disc will never make contact and turn over the starter motor and it will just click once.  Some times the flywheel is worn and eventhough the teeth dont mesh the disc make contact and the starter motor rotates without being ingaged to the engine.

I'm beting you have a bad spot on the flywheel.

(p.s.  In the olden day you had to shim the starters.  And if you didn't shim them right you would get the same results.  My tracker bolts on to the side so there is no way of shiming it.  I don't know about sammies)
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Offline vitaradownunder

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Re: Clicky Starter Motor
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2004, 04:45:55 PM »
the problem that i have now is that the solenoid is staying on and it is not turning off even once the engine has started and the key is in the on position. the solenoid still goes even when the car is turned off and the key is out. the only way to turn it off is by disconnection the battery.
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Offline lil_Truck

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Re: Clicky Starter Motor
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2004, 09:27:42 PM »
Get a test light.  It looks like a screw driver with a wirer coming out of it and a light in the handle.  It's used to see if there's voltage at different places.  Put the wirer to ground and anything you touch with the pointed end that makes the light, light there's power.

Using a test light check the small terminal (small bolt with a wirer on it) when the problem happens.  If theres power it's a bad key switch.

But I beleave it's a bad solenoid/starter.  If it was a bad key switch the starter would just start back up when you hook the battery up.

That copper disc I talked about earlier is sticking and not releasing untill there's no power.  A new starter most likely will solve the problem.
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Offline vitaradownunder

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Re: Clicky Starter Motor
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2004, 07:42:24 AM »
i think it could be the key start, as 85% of the time when the battery was connected again the starter would be as well.
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