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Offline jow003

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samurai stretch
« on: April 19, 2011, 07:34:47 PM »
im lookin for info on stretching my 87 sami.  id like to go from the stock ~80" to 90-92".  does anyone have any info on what all is needed?  id like to stretch both f/r so i can keep the weight ratio as close to equal as possible.

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Re: samurai stretch
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2011, 09:14:49 PM »
low range sells a long wheel base body
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Re: samurai stretch
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2011, 11:46:05 AM »
im looking to fab it as much as i can and not just buy it
if a bigger hammer, bigger tires or more gas doesn't help... your doing it wrong.

BUY MY STUFF!! pm for details

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5" SPOA/OTT -RRO
1.5" leaf springs-OME
RUF conversion-Trail Tough
1" shackles
33x1250x15 MTZs
15x8- DC-2s

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Re: samurai stretch
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2011, 02:58:11 PM »
Are you looking to stretch out the body as well, or just your suspension?

There is a great post on a stretched tin top from Pakistan:

http://zukiworld.com/forum/build-diaries-how-to-diy/streching-my-suzuki-sierra/

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Re: samurai stretch
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2011, 08:35:08 PM »
im hopin to do the body at a later time but ya.  the cab of a sami is a little shy on the cargo space for 2 dogs and anything else.  that looks amazing.  thats really good!  i dont know how i missed it on my searching
if a bigger hammer, bigger tires or more gas doesn't help... your doing it wrong.

BUY MY STUFF!! pm for details

87 Samurai...
5" SPOA/OTT -RRO
1.5" leaf springs-OME
RUF conversion-Trail Tough
1" shackles
33x1250x15 MTZs
15x8- DC-2s

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Re: samurai stretch
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2011, 03:57:42 PM »
Yea, that was pretty amazing work.   Sometimes the older threads are a little hard to find.  :)
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Re: samurai stretch
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2011, 04:52:33 PM »
Yes there are skinny Radial Tires available,
I was trying to match the tires that you had mentioned earlier on an old Jeep.

If want to still search for old Bias Ply's, I think they went to a "Letter First" denotation
some like a G-78-15.

And yes, I do think a skinny tire works great in most app's.

I have 31x10.50x15's, 1st) I got an excellent price on a "NEW" Matching Set of 5 Goodyear Wranglers Off Roads
                               2nd) Here in DEEP snow country and Loon Shit bogs, "Floaters" act like Snow Shoes.

I have been accused of setting "Tiger Traps" as I scoot across, and have the "Big Rigs" bury themselves following right
behind me!!

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Re: samurai stretch
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2011, 04:58:20 PM »
Hey There must be some Gremlins still in the system,

I was even on this Subject/Page!!  I will re-post under skinny tires

Sorry,   CAPT

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Re: samurai stretch
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2011, 07:23:40 AM »
I have a 90" wheelbase. its not that hard. If you go to a coil rear, use a front drive shaft for a rear driveshaft and it will make it 90" also you only have to carry one spare. i welded on new tabs where the leaf springs mount to. you will probably have to raise your gas tank though. and i didnt have to cut the spring perches off the axle just put the coil brackets over them. I will actually be selling my axles in a month or two since im upgrading if you are buy CT. ill try and find a picture for you
« Last Edit: April 23, 2011, 08:04:28 AM by MadMaxZuki »
88.5 Samurai 33" TSL, 6.5:1 Xcase Gears, 92" wheelbase, 3link rear, SPOA front w/ drop shackle, open/locked. Soon to be this spring: Toyota front and Dana44 rear w/ homemade offset.

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Re: samurai stretch
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2011, 07:30:09 AM »
here ya go hope this helps
88.5 Samurai 33" TSL, 6.5:1 Xcase Gears, 92" wheelbase, 3link rear, SPOA front w/ drop shackle, open/locked. Soon to be this spring: Toyota front and Dana44 rear w/ homemade offset.

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Re: samurai stretch
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2011, 06:34:49 PM »
that looks pretty sweet! im wanting to extend both the front and the rear.  and i am really jealous of your coils!!  that will be my next big thing that i do
if a bigger hammer, bigger tires or more gas doesn't help... your doing it wrong.

BUY MY STUFF!! pm for details

87 Samurai...
5" SPOA/OTT -RRO
1.5" leaf springs-OME
RUF conversion-Trail Tough
1" shackles
33x1250x15 MTZs
15x8- DC-2s

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Re: samurai stretch
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2011, 07:37:57 AM »
that looks pretty sweet! im wanting to extend both the front and the rear.  and i am really jealous of your coils!!  that will be my next big thing that i do

That would be sweet to do both, but....
IMO the Samurai already has a good approach angle, it the departure angle thats low. Also if you move the front axle you are going to be getting into custom driveshafts which means a lot of money and if you are splitting the difference between the two axles, then that means two custom driveshafts. Plus its a lot more work. would you go to coils in the front or keep leafs? BC if you keep leafs in the front and extend the frame you will still be left with the same approach angle. If you go coils all around your on road driving wont be as good and will cause a lot of body roll. Leafs do a lot for stability.  thats the reason we used the front shaft as a rear, only one spare is needed and its 9" longer than the front. Where are you located. i will be selling my axles next month. Good luck, let me know if you come up w something else, im curious.
88.5 Samurai 33" TSL, 6.5:1 Xcase Gears, 92" wheelbase, 3link rear, SPOA front w/ drop shackle, open/locked. Soon to be this spring: Toyota front and Dana44 rear w/ homemade offset.

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Re: samurai stretch
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2011, 01:17:29 PM »


a friend of mine; all you want to know:

http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,36488.0.html

he used a donor, and has better rear departure than a fact. lwb
very good, soup-to-nuts build ending up on yotas

happy reading
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Re: samurai stretch
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2011, 05:21:10 PM »
that looks pretty sweet! im wanting to extend both the front and the rear.  and i am really jealous of your coils!!  that will be my next big thing that i do

That would be sweet to do both, but....
IMO the Samurai already has a good approach angle, it the departure angle thats low. Also if you move the front axle you are going to be getting into custom driveshafts which means a lot of money and if you are splitting the difference between the two axles, then that means two custom driveshafts. Plus its a lot more work. would you go to coils in the front or keep leafs? BC if you keep leafs in the front and extend the frame you will still be left with the same approach angle. If you go coils all around your on road driving wont be as good and will cause a lot of body roll. Leafs do a lot for stability.  thats the reason we used the front shaft as a rear, only one spare is needed and its 9" longer than the front. Where are you located. i will be selling my axles next month. Good luck, let me know if you come up w something else, im curious.

ya, id do a 4 link also of course and i already have toy axles.  im thinkin ill just stretch behind the doors and infront of the rear tires bc its cheaper and easier.  if it seems like its really light on the ass end then ill just deal. 

im already plannin on gettin custom driveshafts from high angle which is why i wanna stretch it now (instead of gettin custom shafts that are sami->toy  reg length then stretchin it and havin to get new shafts).  i dont drive my sam on the road that much and will be flat towed most places

im located in colorado about 30 min from vail as of now.  my biggest prob is that there arent alot of samurais up here and the ones that are here are dd's for ppl that dont wanna sell their tub to me to hack up.... punks haha
if a bigger hammer, bigger tires or more gas doesn't help... your doing it wrong.

BUY MY STUFF!! pm for details

87 Samurai...
5" SPOA/OTT -RRO
1.5" leaf springs-OME
RUF conversion-Trail Tough
1" shackles
33x1250x15 MTZs
15x8- DC-2s