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Offline cj

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Turbo the 16v?
« on: June 30, 2004, 02:14:10 AM »
OK, so I'm toying with the idea of putting a turbo on the 16v auto. What do I need to know? I'm looking at a low boost setup maybe in the order of 4-6 psi for longevity and reliability. How will the computer cope and will I need to change the injectors, fuel pump etc? Should I consider any work on the head, valves, cam? Would I need an intercooler? Would a 2" exhaust work or should I go larger maybe up to 3"? I would want it to spool up fairly quickly. I can get a turbo off a Subaru WRX for a good price. Thoughts, suggestions all welcome.

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Re: Turbo the 16v?
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2004, 02:53:59 AM »
4-6 PSI can get by without an intercooler, but
once the Turbo Bug bites, you will want to bump
the boost, so install and intercooler now and
save the rework.

You might need bigger injectors, but the stock
pump should work fine, the computer seems
to cope fine on a 16V MAF system, the MAP
system is another story, I'v added extra injectors
and a secondary EFI computer to handle the boost
chores, I would recomend 30-35 PPH injectors.

As soon as I can afford to, I'm putting on a 3"
exhaust system, 3" Cat too, about 300 bones
installed, 2" will work, 3" is better for turbo only
not for the N/A motor tho, so keep the old system
should you ever go back, or need to.

I think the WRX Turbo is a little large, but will
work, what size is the WRX engine ?  and what
boost do they run, these new Turbos are all
internally wastegated and will take some re-working
of the wastegate actuator to reduce the boost, like
a new can for less boost.

Stainless Exhaust Valves are a good idea, and lower
CR pistons would be a nice change, about 8:1 is good,
stock Cams work very well with most Turbo applications,
if you get too radical of a Cam it actually is worse for
power, not better, remember you are force feeding now
and don't need the radical overlap, to ram air/fuel into
the cylinders, and as always, a little head work will improve
breathing, but too much will slow the intake charge and
reduce power in non-boost conditions (off idle to 2000 RPM)
so port a little if you want, but don't go hogout crazy

Let me know how you do with it
;D

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« Last Edit: June 30, 2004, 02:54:48 AM by wildgoody »
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Re: Turbo the 16v?
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2004, 04:47:22 AM »
Man i was going to turbo my truck but i was like i know ill get greddy and shit lol.

Like my acura raced a modded Z06 and i was like 2 cars behind so im like 2 more psi i should be there well lifted my cyl head lol and now its leaking lol oh well.

Good luck with the turbo kit.

The 16 valve is mas air right if so its alot easier to turbo then with the Map sensor speed dens system.
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Re: Turbo the 16v?
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2004, 07:02:50 PM »
I want to put a snorkel on and was going to use a Safari but am wondering if this would be restrictive on the intake side of things, maybe a custom bent pipe would be better? Ideas on size? The early WRX's are 2.0l and were running a Mitsubishi TD04/TD05 turbo I believe. There was a Mazda/Ford 1.6/1.8l turbo awd car running an IHI RHB5 turbo that could be worth a look.

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Re: Turbo the 16v?
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2004, 07:09:10 PM »
Anyone know what the injectors are in the 16v?

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Re: Turbo the 16v?
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2004, 07:12:49 PM »
I'm running the IHI RHB5 turbo now,
and the injectors are about 17 PPH
at a guess, tho they could be 15s too

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Re: Turbo the 16v?
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2004, 12:02:50 AM »
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I want to put a snorkel on and was going to use a Safari but am wondering if this would be restrictive on the intake side of things,


Depends on what size MAF sensor you're going to use, the snorkel is probably no smaller diameter than the stock item.
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Re: Turbo the 16v?
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2004, 05:23:34 AM »
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I want to put a snorkel on and was going to use a Safari but am wondering if this would be restrictive on the intake side of things, maybe a custom bent pipe would be better? Ideas on size? The early WRX's are 2.0l and were running a Mitsubishi TD04/TD05 turbo I believe. There was a Mazda/Ford 1.6/1.8l turbo awd car running an IHI RHB5 turbo that could be worth a look.

we had a 89 turbo probe we played with last summer and we blew the turbo up at 14 PSI.  so it would be fine for anything from about 1 to 10 PSI.  it runs stock on 7 PSI.

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Re: Turbo the 16v?
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2004, 07:54:43 AM »
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I think the WRX Turbo is a little large, but will
work, what size is the WRX engine ?  and what
boost do they run, these new Turbos are all
internally wastegated and will take some re-working
of the wastegate actuator to reduce the boost, like
a new can for less boost.

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The WRX has a 2.0 liter engine, and the turbo doesn't build full boost until about 3000rpm - and is a laggy until 3300rpm, so I'd say it's too big to use on a 1.6 liter.  The stock maximum boost is 13.5psi.

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Re: Turbo the 16v?
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2004, 02:21:03 PM »
the longer the air travels trough an intake system the more restrictive it is. try to breath through a waterhose and u get the general idea.
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