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Is samurai transfer case solid enough?

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Offline Sloid

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Is samurai transfer case solid enough?
« on: March 07, 2009, 02:37:14 AM »
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My name is Pawe? and I am from Poland. At the beginning of my post I would like to ask you for not being mad at my English level:). With my dad we are racing in polish and European off-road competitions (mostly mud and everything that you can see in forest, without rocks - only small ones). Our previous car ( http://rajdy4x4.pl/index.php/ida/3/?ogloszenieID=7725&oRdz=1&iO=20&cOd=0&cDo=0&rOd=0&rDo=0&sC=0&aW=0&aM=&q=&sM=22&sP=0&tZ=0&tD=0&pSt=1&p=2 - i know that you won't understand anything but you can see pictures) was 100% samurai with 2 winches (superwich and mechanical winch that uses PTO). It rolled on 32" Simex extreme trekker and was really good one. However, we wanted to build something better. We took Jimny frame, made rollcage, put into it Vitara 2.0 engine, connected with slightly modified gearbox (originally it is connected to weak transfer case so we had to shorten it and close from back).  Axles from Toyota LC (old ones - the lightest, we will change gears if it will be possible to get ones)are installed with gaz-shocks 12" coilovers. Car will roll on Sillverstone extreme 35/10.5/r16 wheels. Transfer case is from samurai with  5.14:1Calmini Rockcrawler gear set.  Original housing was strenghten by piece of metal that goes around transfer case and is bolted into it - I have seen such a solution on azrockcrawler.com few years ago. I would like to ask you if this transfer case will be solid enough? Car should weight around 1200 kgs (2646lbs). We have never put over 140hp engine into samurai so we have no idea what can happen. a
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Re: Is samurai transfer case solid enough?
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2009, 06:14:27 AM »
The transfer cases are really pretty dang strong.  I don't think you will have any problems.
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Re: Is samurai transfer case solid enough?
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2009, 08:45:24 AM »
I have seen people running Chevy 4.3L V6 into the Samurai transfer case without issues.  As long as your mounting bolts are tight you should be ok.
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Offline Jeremiah

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Re: Is samurai transfer case solid enough?
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2009, 08:46:56 AM »
2.0L swap's been done with the Samurai T-case: http://members.cox.net/aftermarket4x4/current_proj.html. Bolt it in good, so it doesn't move around, and it'll last a long long time: http://www.izook.com/tech/samurai/drivetrain/ttkong/ttkong.htm
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Re: Is samurai transfer case solid enough?
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2009, 10:37:30 AM »
Thanks for replies. I am not sure if crader is the only option. We decided to do something like this:
http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/pelny/306dab80821009ee.html
http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/pelny/4e5c5803d62a75b0.html
http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/pelny/bd665baeb78a1e3d.html
I haven't pictures of transfer case with everything on because we were in hurry and wanted to paint all parts. Tomorow we will put all parts together and I will take few pictures. The main idea was to keep housing, because original aluminium isn't solid and sometimes it falls into pieces - calmini that is inside is really strong. Here every thing painted.
http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/pelny/db75eb6bcd493cee.html
http://www.fotosik.pl/pokaz_obrazek/pelny/d50b9a8ee017bf80.html
Do you think that such a solution is good?
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Re: Is samurai transfer case solid enough?
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2009, 11:13:11 AM »
That is a nice looking cradle.  :)
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Re: Is samurai transfer case solid enough?
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2009, 01:37:38 PM »
sammy T-case vs Tank.

my money is on the sammy T-case  ;)
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Re: Is samurai transfer case solid enough?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2009, 02:36:58 PM »
Our project is based as I said on project saw on azrockcrawler.com . As I understand it's the same idea?
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Re: Is samurai transfer case solid enough?
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2009, 02:37:35 PM »
That ring will work. It just needs something to help keep the aluminum alive.
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Re: Is samurai transfer case solid enough?
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2009, 11:59:09 AM »
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Re: Is samurai transfer case solid enough?
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2009, 02:30:51 PM »
Looks just a bit nuke-proof! ;D

Cool armor!

What steel is used?

PS Steel could be claimed in USSR marking, if it is.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2009, 02:33:23 PM by Dimitros »
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95 Samurai, 1.3, high comp.pistons, ported/grinded head, 1.6 valves, bored intake, Solex carb, K&N air, MSD Coil-Blaster+MSD 8.5 wires+Denso Iridium IW16 plugs, Calmini Tri-Y heder, Cherry-Bomb+Bosal custom exhaust, GRS II 4.89 T-case, 3.92:1 R&Ps, Calmini 3.5" susp., 30" BFG ATs, AVM 538 hubs...
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Re: Is samurai transfer case solid enough?
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2009, 03:49:56 PM »
Thanks a lot  ;D

Steel was made in Poland - USSR does not exist since 1991 so it would be 18 years old  :P
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Re: Is samurai transfer case solid enough?
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2009, 07:33:48 PM »
That looks a lot easier to install then mine.  Nice work.  :)
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Re: Is samurai transfer case solid enough?
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2009, 01:50:01 AM »
Quote from: Sloid on March 08, 2009, 03:49:56 PM
Thanks a lot  ;D

Steel was made in Poland - USSR does not exist since 1991 so it would be 18 years old  :P


I meant what kind of steel was used, and USSR markings are just better understandable to me since I live in Ukraine.

Anyway nice work!
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Re: Is samurai transfer case solid enough?
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2009, 02:25:29 AM »
Thanks again guys.
Yesturday carrier brought me coilovers and I hope that till end of this month car will be runing.

Steel really looks like Russian one - we have only this kind in Poland for reasonable price.

You know much more than polish off-road workshops about Zukis so thanks for your help.
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