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Offline tipover

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Re: Locker in the front?
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2008, 02:00:53 PM »
a locrite will never affect your turning, your tire wear, or break any thing as long as its working proper, a loc right is designed to spin freely when one tire needs to turn faster than the other (witch solves the steerig) a locright is designed to unlock and work like an open carrier automaticly. this steering issue is b.s. i have spooled front and rear axles and run bigger tire than mostly everyone and can turn fine, my rear end chirps when turning corners on pavement, i also run a 2 door tracker with 33" tires stock aluminum front carrier and drive every day on road with my locrites my tires wear completly normal, i have not broke a housing, i can turn fine, and it works great. i have had one issue with my hubs locked in i was making a tight u turn on road and my front locright failed to release causing a cv shaft to explode, a trip to the junk yard and 10 bucks later all was solved. get a locker you will love it!
The probable reason it exploded is the fact that the rear tires are turning in a smaller circle especially when turning sharp.  this causes the front drive shaft to want to spin at a different speed than the rear which is impossible if t-case is in 4wd.  thus the binding between the front and rear axles does not let the lockers disengage.  = broken CV.  thats why I don't have a locker in the front for road use on my DD. my thrasher for off road, locker in front=awesome.
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Re: Locker in the front?
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2008, 06:22:46 PM »
I've had that bind problem too, but I didn't break anything. I pull out of 4WD on really tight, high traction turns now.

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Re: Locker in the front?
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2008, 08:28:20 AM »
4 wheel drive is a no no on pavement i knew that but for some reason decided to do it anyway :'(
88' Zuk 16v efi full width dana 44 axles and 37"s,hybrid exo cage, comp cut rear -18", F&R fox air shocks , jegs poly seats, sk automatic trans, 6.5:1 t case, twinsticks, 100" wheelbase with a 79" wide.

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Re: Locker in the front?
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2008, 03:13:56 AM »
I still don't get why anyone would do lockrite in front... I know they're suppoed to let the outside tire turn faster, but again - it's my understanding it only does this when COASTING. If under power, the lockrite is supposed to lock up and act like a spool. I can't think of a time when I'd be in 4wd and coasting.

And - NEVER lock up on road. I've only done this while on snow - and going straight. When I turn, I stop, go to 2wd, then turn... then back to 4wd to avoid the binding problem. If in 4wd hi- range, you can shift on-the-fly with clutch in BTW.
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Re: Locker in the front?
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2008, 09:58:20 AM »
The trail tough locker that I have is a lockrite in the front. I actually have lockrite's front and rear. When in 4 low and in real tight spots I'll have to put my T-case in 2 low until I get out of the spot. Or sometimes you can jack with throttle a little and get it to turn. If you do lock the front I would suggest looking into the 2 low t-case kit.

     Kevin
94 purple/green splash tracker w/ calmini 3' heavly modified lift 32 11.5 r15 bfg m/t's  & custom air induction and header w/ 2"exh. no cat lockrite rear 2" B/L and a heavy right foot and now 583s steel up front and locked.
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Re: Locker in the front?
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2008, 12:29:36 PM »
The trail tough locker that I have is a lockrite in the front. I actually have lockrite's front and rear. When in 4 low and in real tight spots I'll have to put my T-case in 2 low until I get out of the spot. Or sometimes you can jack with throttle a little and get it to turn. If you do lock the front I would suggest looking into the 2 low t-case kit.

     Kevin

Does the front ever unlock, or would someone be better off welded / spooled?
'96 4 door kick: 29" Pep-Boys M/T, 1.5" OME
'83 SJ410: 31" Toyo M/T, SPOA, 1.3L
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Re: Locker in the front?
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2008, 02:12:50 PM »
my case was the first issue ive ever had with the front sticking, other than the one time (and i blame the pavement) its never gave me fuss on the trail always turned nice and never failed me. i would buy a locrite again for a dailey driver, as for my buggy welded only :laugh:
88' Zuk 16v efi full width dana 44 axles and 37"s,hybrid exo cage, comp cut rear -18", F&R fox air shocks , jegs poly seats, sk automatic trans, 6.5:1 t case, twinsticks, 100" wheelbase with a 79" wide.

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Re: Locker in the front?
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2008, 10:29:22 AM »
With manual hubs, you can always free one hub when in a tight turn.
If you don't mind the hassle of getting in and out just to do that...its not so bad.
Or just go ARB...

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Re: Locker in the front?
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2008, 12:12:59 PM »
Or twin sticks  ;D
'96 4 door kick: 29" Pep-Boys M/T, 1.5" OME
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Re: Locker in the front?
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2008, 02:52:04 PM »
TWIN STICKS are great ;)
94 purple/green splash tracker w/ calmini 3' heavly modified lift 32 11.5 r15 bfg m/t's  & custom air induction and header w/ 2"exh. no cat lockrite rear 2" B/L and a heavy right foot and now 583s steel up front and locked.
2002 GV 2.5l 4.5 ZN lift locked on 31's

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Re: Locker in the front?
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2008, 03:58:37 PM »
yes they are but they still keep your front end locked together as far as a spool or welded, i cant wait till i can afford my rear disconect, i have line locks front and rear but can only independantly burn the rear for now :o
88' Zuk 16v efi full width dana 44 axles and 37"s,hybrid exo cage, comp cut rear -18", F&R fox air shocks , jegs poly seats, sk automatic trans, 6.5:1 t case, twinsticks, 100" wheelbase with a 79" wide.