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Different DISTRIBUTORs for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition?

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Offline Reddog1

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Different DISTRIBUTORs for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition?
« on: April 28, 2008, 12:10:01 PM »
I bought a DISTRIBUTOR for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition, on Ebay. I wanted it for a spare. It appears OK, but is definitely different from my 1991.

My 1991 is a Denso, 33100-80C10, 229100-7180. It uses three wires, and has a tall dist. cap.

The Ebay unit is a Mitsubishi, 33100-56B10, No. 1x28, Type T2T53471. It uses a four pin connector, and has a short cap.

My questions are:

1   What years use the Mitsubishi, 33100-56B10?

2   Can I use the Mitsubishi, 33100-56B10 in my 1991?

3   If number 3 is yes, which three, of the four pins do I use?


The green tag dist is the Mitsubishi:






Thanks for your input.


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Re: Different DISTRIBUTORs for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2008, 09:34:08 PM »
well I just ran down and looked and the 1.6 I have on my stand, it has a four pin with the same mitsu # on it, I think the one you got maybe for a 1.6

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Re: Different DISTRIBUTORs for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition?
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2008, 10:03:42 AM »
Quote from: RHodge on April 28, 2008, 09:34:08 PM
well I just ran down and looked and the 1.6 I have on my stand, it has a four pin with the same mitsu # on it, I think the one you got maybe for a 1.6

I have one of those dizzys but no wiring info. Do you know what the wire colours are?
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Re: Different DISTRIBUTORs for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition?
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2008, 05:59:54 PM »
I sure appreciate you guys help in identifying this dist. I really want a spare, but obviously it has to work. These guys are real pricey, from what I have seen so far.

I have a spare coil, fuel pump, igniter and a couple of relays.   I  have a Petro reworked computer. I intend to use my Zuki in some remote areas, and prefer to have spare critical parts.


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Re: Different DISTRIBUTORs for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition?
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2008, 09:15:39 PM »
Try this link, may have the info you are looking for. http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=15324
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Re: Different DISTRIBUTORs for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition?
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2008, 07:12:26 PM »
Quote from: phloop on April 29, 2008, 09:15:39 PM
Try this link, may have the info you are looking for. http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=15324


The distributors there are very different, but thinks for the link.


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Re: Different DISTRIBUTORs for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition?
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2008, 04:50:46 AM »
Can you post pics of the insides? You may find that the 4 pin is a hall effect sensor from an EFI model.
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Re: Different DISTRIBUTORs for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition?
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2008, 07:48:43 AM »
Thanks for the response Rhinoman.

I opened it up to the point I cannot loosen a screw that holds a dust cover. I will get the screw out this weekend and post photos.

Mine (in my '91) is an EFI. That is what I was after when I bought this dist. It was advertised as a "DISTRIBUTOR for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition", but did not say EFI. Silly me, I should have ask.

If it does not work for me, I need to know what it is, so I can resale it and get what I need.


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Re: Different DISTRIBUTORs for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition?
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2008, 10:38:30 AM »
Quote from: Reddog1 on May 02, 2008, 07:48:43 AM
Mine (in my '91) is an EFI. That is what I was after when I bought this dist. It was advertised as a "DISTRIBUTOR for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition", but did not say EFI. Silly me, I should have ask.

If it does not work for me, I need to know what it is, so I can resale it and get what I need.


Wayne

All samurai electronic advance distributors are for EFI engines (at least here in the US).  The samurai EFI distys have a wire pigtail hanging out of them, not a place on the side to plug in a connector.

All samurai carbed distys are vacuum advance (again, at least here in the US).

I guess it could be an electronic advance disty from a car with a 1.3........but I would say from this info.......
Quote from: RHodge on April 28, 2008, 09:34:08 PM
well I just ran down and looked and the 1.6 I have on my stand, it has a four pin with the same mitsu # on it, I think the one you got maybe for a 1.6

that it is a disty from a 1.6.
A google search also says it fits 91-95, 1.6, 8V trackicks......and I know the samurai 1.3 and the trackick 1.6 distys do not interchange (by that I mean that they are not the same part number and the electrical connectors are not the same).
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Re: Different DISTRIBUTORs for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition?
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2008, 08:41:20 PM »
Skyhiranger, if I understand your post, you believe the distributator to be from a it fits 91-95, 1.6, 8V Sidekick?


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Re: Different DISTRIBUTORs for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition?
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2008, 08:23:36 AM »
Quote from: Reddog1 on May 02, 2008, 08:41:20 PM
Skyhiranger, if I understand your post, you believe the distributator to be from a it fits 91-95, 1.6, 8V Sidekick?


Wayne

Yep.  It definitely is NOT a samurai 1.3 disty.  And the number matches the distys used in 91-95, 1.6 8V trackicks.
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Re: Different DISTRIBUTORs for a 1.3 engine with electronic ignition?
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2008, 03:29:51 PM »
The dist was misidentified. It was from a Sidekick.

Shucks, I really had my hart set on having an extra dist for my '91 1.3 8v Zuki.


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