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phloop

Re: 96 tracker spark plugs
« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2007, 06:37:54 PM »
OK Phloop, The spark plug wire is connected to the distributor cap where it gets its charge from the coil. The voltage goes into the capacitor where it builds until it is released to the plug in a single short burst. The reason for the ground wire is because that is how capacitors work. In order to drain them, in this case across the spark plug gap you need a closed circuit thus the ground wire from the negative side of the capacitor.



I am sorry that I was wrong with my last post about not replying to this thread again. :-\

I know how the ignition circuit works. As of yet, I have not seen how these snake oil wires get their charge to begin with.

The coil builds voltage  and releases it through the plug wires to the plug's. That is something almost every person knows.

The one thing I WANT TO KNOW is how the cap's on the wires gain their power to begin with. ??? ???

Oh and another thing, how do the caps know when to release their energy??


Can some one please dumb this down to where people can understand what these wires do? ???

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Re: 96 tracker spark plugs
« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2007, 08:18:45 PM »
OK Phloop, The spark plug wire is connected to the distributor cap where it gets its charge from the coil. The voltage goes into the capacitor where it builds until it is released to the plug in a single short burst. The reason for the ground wire is because that is how capacitors work. In order to drain them, in this case across the spark plug gap you need a closed circuit thus the ground wire from the negative side of the capacitor.
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Re: 96 tracker spark plugs
« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2007, 08:49:11 PM »
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I know how the ignition circuit works. As of yet, I have not seen how these snake oil wires get their charge to begin with.

They get their (charge) voltage from the coil.

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The one thing I WANT TO KNOW is how the cap's on the wires gain their power to begin with. ??? ???

They get their (charge) (Power) voltage from the coil.

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Oh and another thing, how do the caps know when to release their energy??

One of two ways, either it is when enough energy has been stored to jump the larger spark plug gap or there is an electronic trigger. I don't have an absolute answer for this one but it is probably the first one.

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Can some one please dumb this down to where people can understand what these wires do? ???

These wires increase the spark to the spark plugs.

Sorry I can't do any better than this, If you still need help go Google "how a capacitor works".
« Last Edit: December 02, 2007, 08:53:31 PM by sidekicksrock »
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Re: 96 tracker spark plugs
« Reply #48 on: December 02, 2007, 09:06:25 PM »
Quote from: Gen-Erix
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and the cat says...
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Re: 96 tracker spark plugs
« Reply #49 on: December 02, 2007, 09:37:16 PM »
Quote from: Gen-Erix
and the duck says...
quack

Quote from: Gen-Erix
and the cat says...
meow

Quote from: Gen-Erix
and the dog says...
woof

Quote from: Gen-Erix
and the cow says...
moo


and thats... the way it goes




Very well said!

But what we really need are some "snake oil" jokes!


Question: Why did the serpent cross the road?

Answer: to get to the oily side.



Question: Why did Popeye buy a python?

Answer: because he couldn't get Olive Oil.


Question: How much snake oil does it take to fill a capacitor?

Answer: Oh wait we already heard this one...


Anyone else?


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phloop

Re: 96 tracker spark plugs
« Reply #50 on: December 02, 2007, 10:17:09 PM »
OK..........

How about we start over? ???

I want to know how these wires work. The nology site does not explain how they work and the posts here are either questioning them or backing them.

I really would like too know how the wires do their thing.

Check out part 2....... ;)




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Re: 96 tracker spark plugs
« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2007, 10:44:30 PM »
I think you guys are splitting the finest of hairs. The biggest question I think you should be asking is how much time/money are you investing in the rest of the motor? Stock compression and middle RPMs do you need to spend near $300 on an ignition system to gain 3 hp and half a mpg? I'm thinking if you want torque provided by a longer and more complete burn at 2-5K RPM than a bigger spark with more immediate pressure for a shorter time at 9k RPM. Crappy sentence structure but the theory is solid.

I have an Accell coil and mid grade Bosch wires and Bosch plugs it has worked great for years.
Eventually I put a turbo on and had some ignition problems. Since then I've moved to Bosch Platinum +2 plugs and I'm picking up some high end wires as well.

Opening the gap will always increase voltage and decrease duration, it will also however increase wear on the plugs if they are not of enough quality to sustain it. Ex. burnt, blown off, melted electrodes and ground probes.

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Re: 96 tracker spark plugs
« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2007, 10:56:02 PM »
Hey Joe, I agree with everything you posted.


And again, I am trying to take the plug wire debate away from Riddicks thread so that he can get an answer to his question.

Just because us hard headed bozo's want to argue about plug wires doesn't mean he can't get an answer to his question. :-\

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Re: 96 tracker spark plugs
« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2007, 04:57:19 AM »
Hey Joe, I agree with everything you posted.

And again, I am trying to take the plug wire debate away from Riddicks thread so that he can get an answer to his question.

Just because us hard headed bozo's want to argue about plug wires doesn't mean he can't get an answer to his question. :-\

Actually there were three answers.
Stock
Stock
try some NGK V's

I didn't respond to the original question because I agree with the original posters. The Zuk engine isn't high powered or high compression so it doesn't need that much of a spark to make it work. Stock plugs should do just fine. I have also run the Vs quite exstensively in other engines and I like them. No noticable power increase but they work better over a wider temperature range. I could run a 9EV instead of a 10R with no loss of power, a normal 9 would fade very badly. Stick to the original rated heat grade and cold performance is noticably better.
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Re: 96 tracker spark plugs
« Reply #54 on: December 03, 2007, 07:01:57 AM »
    This is still going.WOW!If we could get this much input on every subject there would never be a problem that wasn't solved.
   

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Re: 96 tracker spark plugs
« Reply #55 on: December 03, 2007, 08:00:15 AM »
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