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lengthening front Vitara/Sidekick control arms

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Offline wildgoody

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Re: lengthening front Vitara/Sidekick control arms
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2005, 07:49:48 AM »
Rhino is right, you can't move the strut out
with the wheel, the strut is the limiting factor,
moving it out will widen, but travel will not
change, as well as the spring rate will be too
low, the stock spring at ~450 is way too weak,
needs to be increased about 100 Lbs/inch outward
movement, I have looked at this for several years,
I can see no easy way to increase the travel or
width with the stock stuff
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Offline Rhinoman

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Re: lengthening front Vitara/Sidekick control arms
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2005, 10:44:25 AM »
I have the extra travel (well some extra travel), I am running 2" spacers and OME struts. The problem is that the CVs are running out of travel, longer driveshafts travel further for any particular angle so I was thinking about ways to make the front end a bit wider to use the full length of the Toy driveshaft.
2000 Vitara 1.6, 3+3 Lift, 33"MTs, 5:83s, LWB brakes, Winch, Snorkel, Safari Rack
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Offline barcus

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Re: lengthening front Vitara/Sidekick control arms
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2005, 07:47:04 PM »
hi rhinoman, toy driveshafts (hilux) are about the same length as zuks. i converted my front drive to toyota hilux ifs and have  to fabricate spacers (between shaft and 3rd member) to accomodate the hagen front widening.


zuk axles on top



spacers


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Re: lengthening front Vitara/Sidekick control arms
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2005, 04:51:10 AM »
hi rhinoman, toy driveshafts (hilux) are about the same length as zuks. i converted my front drive to toyota hilux ifs and have  to fabricate spacers (between shaft and 3rd member) to accomodate the hagen front widening.


The pic I was looking at isn't there any more, it showed a spacer between the hub and the lock out. Do you not have that spacer?, I thought you did.  So the spacer in the pic above is just to widen the driveshaft, are the flange hole patterns the same then?
2000 Vitara 1.6, 3+3 Lift, 33"MTs, 5:83s, LWB brakes, Winch, Snorkel, Safari Rack
1986 SJ413K PickUp, 1.6L conversion.

OBD1 - Full diagnostics on a PC/Laptop: http://www.rhinopower.org

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Offline barcus

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Re: lengthening front Vitara/Sidekick control arms
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2005, 07:50:36 PM »

lockout spacers

you you will need the lockout spacers since the toy ifs have longer spindles. the section in between CV joints though are about the same length as zuks.

the flange hole patterns arw different so you will need adapters if your planning to use the stock 3rd member.