wildgoody, what the heck are you talking about?? whoever buys high octane with prices the way they are now, they gotta be morons... i used to put the premium stuff in my accord when i had it... oh, this is off-subject, but i learned something else by chance... i was washing my car sunday after church, and i sprayed some tire shine called "onyx" (clear bottle, black label with blue writing, blue liquid)... and i got some on my bumper by accident... so i took a paper towel to try to wipe it off, and it made it look real nice, so i sprayed the whole thing with the stuff and now the bumpers are just as dark and shiny as the painted parts.... it looks unbelievably awesome...